chips and mods for dummies
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chips and mods for dummies
Hi,
I just got my 2007 F350 XL 6.0PS CC SRW SB truck.
It is amonngst the 1st F350's that arrive to israel (until today there was a tax issue of some kind that made ford not bring them here), so the knolage base is pretty unavaliable, as well as mods and accesories.
as for my question, what exactly are the options (mod chips,flash, programmers etc.) to get better MPG and better HP. what does each mod literally mean?? please explain the pros and cons of each, and apx price.
what is the easiers way to do it without real technical support, mail order DIY, and keep it reversable so that when i go to service i can de-activate it.
thanks,
eysham
I just got my 2007 F350 XL 6.0PS CC SRW SB truck.
It is amonngst the 1st F350's that arrive to israel (until today there was a tax issue of some kind that made ford not bring them here), so the knolage base is pretty unavaliable, as well as mods and accesories.
as for my question, what exactly are the options (mod chips,flash, programmers etc.) to get better MPG and better HP. what does each mod literally mean?? please explain the pros and cons of each, and apx price.
what is the easiers way to do it without real technical support, mail order DIY, and keep it reversable so that when i go to service i can de-activate it.
thanks,
eysham
Last edited by eysham; Jan 4, 2007 at 11:49 AM.
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Hard chips are obsolete on newer vehicles, once they are burned that is al they can do and most only affect the motor. Flash and programmer as the same, programmers reflash the eeprom. The Eeprom is usually set in two files, one for the motor and one for the trans. Most tuners will allow you to tweak both and unload them easily. Piggy back modules are the other option, ie Edge juice and bully dogs repacked version of same. These plug into the motor harness and can be difficult to remove.
programmers run from $400-600 depending on manuf or shipping.
Modules run from $600-1000, the attitude/out look adds to the price, but is really nice because it allows easy on the fly adjustment.
programmers run from $400-600 depending on manuf or shipping.
Modules run from $600-1000, the attitude/out look adds to the price, but is really nice because it allows easy on the fly adjustment.
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thanks,
Do the piggy back modules leave a trace (apart from maybe an electrical connector) that is noticable when i go to service?
I mean, do they make changed in the eeprom/ecu that are non reversable?
or do they literally disappear when disconnected...??..
eysham
Do the piggy back modules leave a trace (apart from maybe an electrical connector) that is noticable when i go to service?
I mean, do they make changed in the eeprom/ecu that are non reversable?
or do they literally disappear when disconnected...??..
eysham
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Its not a matter of chips being obsolete for newer trucks... its a matter of them not having a service port on the newer computers to connect a chip to. You must use a tuner. The "piggy back" modules are not chips... not by a long shot. They are fueling boxes and what they do, simply, is increase fueling and timing. They do not properly address the transmission the way a tuner can.
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I am sorry but all this confuses me.
Here in israel the whole MOD scene is not avaliabe.
our car importers dont let you mod ANYTHING, and i mean ANYTHING.
cant change tire size without it throwing the warranty down the drain, with a few police tickets on the way for illegal car vehicle modification.
that's why I am looking to put something that wont be noticed when I go to service my ford, that will increase fuel (and HP for that matter...)
anything like this avaliable for my 2007 F350?
Here in israel the whole MOD scene is not avaliabe.
our car importers dont let you mod ANYTHING, and i mean ANYTHING.
cant change tire size without it throwing the warranty down the drain, with a few police tickets on the way for illegal car vehicle modification.
that's why I am looking to put something that wont be noticed when I go to service my ford, that will increase fuel (and HP for that matter...)
anything like this avaliable for my 2007 F350?
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i know that.
the only problem is if the tuner leaves any "history file" even after returning to stock.
if the mechanics notice "date of last entry" or something of this sort.
I have no idea if such a thing exists, or if the tuner truley leaves no fideling around evidence.
eysham
the only problem is if the tuner leaves any "history file" even after returning to stock.
if the mechanics notice "date of last entry" or something of this sort.
I have no idea if such a thing exists, or if the tuner truley leaves no fideling around evidence.
eysham
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I have heard that the SCT excaliber II does not leave any footprints on the pcm. I think that is what you are looking for. However, once you reflash the pcm back to the stock tune, it resets the computer so it will effect things like # of starts. I don't know if that is a big deal because I would think unplugging the battery would do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by eysham
i know that.
the only problem is if the tuner leaves any "history file" even after returning to stock.
if the mechanics notice "date of last entry" or something of this sort.
I have no idea if such a thing exists, or if the tuner truley leaves no fideling around evidence.
eysham
the only problem is if the tuner leaves any "history file" even after returning to stock.
if the mechanics notice "date of last entry" or something of this sort.
I have no idea if such a thing exists, or if the tuner truley leaves no fideling around evidence.
eysham
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Hypertech HyperPAC
what brand would you recommend?
anyone tried the Hypertech HyperPAC ? seems nice though a bit more expensive.
plus, it can work with metric units that i need...
eysham
anyone tried the Hypertech HyperPAC ? seems nice though a bit more expensive.
plus, it can work with metric units that i need...
eysham
