Reprogramming a computer for my F250 V10
Reprogramming a computer for my F250 V10
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What is the PCM to??? SD, EX, Motorhome, etc? Give more details...please.
If your PCM is bad, then a new PCM must be installed. The new PCM will get the program for your application (variables include: year, model, etc.)
Sounds like a high price...IMHO.
biz
If your PCM is bad, then a new PCM must be installed. The new PCM will get the program for your application (variables include: year, model, etc.)
Sounds like a high price...IMHO.
biz
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From: Clarkston, MI
you can replace the pcm yourself, about 10 mins to do and then take it a dealer to have it reprogramed. they can get the as biult data for your truck and program the new pcm, should cost one hour labor for dealer to perform the program. ( by the way, after you replace the pcm it will not start. you will have tow it to the dealer.
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Steve
that sounds about right for most dealers and is one of the reasons many of us have the dilemma of going with the Ford Extended service plan or not going with one... several of the components that can fail are damned expensive... you might could find any 2001 to 2004 PCM from a junk yard but these days they want about 80~90% of new cost and there is zero warranty... then you still have to pay about $75 to have it loaded with the latest update by a Ford Tech "flashing" it with the latest "code"
Some PCMs are very model specific and some are all the same within a "series". If your vehicle is a V10 powered SuperDuty truck from 2001 to 2004 you can get lucky with a junk yard one as they are all interchangeable as long as you get the same trany item... There seems to be a disagreement about if a manual trany PCM has the logic for the 4R100 auto trany... usually a good junk yard will know what vehicle the "brain" PCM came out of.
that sounds about right for most dealers and is one of the reasons many of us have the dilemma of going with the Ford Extended service plan or not going with one... several of the components that can fail are damned expensive... you might could find any 2001 to 2004 PCM from a junk yard but these days they want about 80~90% of new cost and there is zero warranty... then you still have to pay about $75 to have it loaded with the latest update by a Ford Tech "flashing" it with the latest "code"
Some PCMs are very model specific and some are all the same within a "series". If your vehicle is a V10 powered SuperDuty truck from 2001 to 2004 you can get lucky with a junk yard one as they are all interchangeable as long as you get the same trany item... There seems to be a disagreement about if a manual trany PCM has the logic for the 4R100 auto trany... usually a good junk yard will know what vehicle the "brain" PCM came out of.
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Check out this site for PCM's. www.ecudirect.com You can get a new PCM or send in your old unit and they will rebuild it. Haven't heard of anyone that has used their service but it is worth checking out. Better than shelling out $900 to a rip-off dealer!
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hello, been a while since I posted. I just went to get my truck smogged (after uninstalling the Superchip 1715 program and went back to stock). Well, the readings from the exhaust are almost non-existant (good), however the guy said my PCM is showing error and I need to drive the truck around till it clears itself (sop he failed it)..BAD.... so how long does that usually take to completely reset the PCM? I am going to see what codes are present tonite and hopefully clear them out. That 1715 programmer is suppose to do that automatically I thought. Anyhow, I need to get the error corrected for it pass smog. 
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The code that you can't clear with a tool is the P1000. That code means that not all of the tests have run since the last time the codes were cleared.
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Originally Posted by sball
My dealer wants to charge me $900 to install a new computer and program it. Is there something I or my mechanic to do?
Thanks Steve
Thanks Steve
The 4wd control module went out on my moms 03' Explorer 50k miles and costs over $400 for a new module and install at the stealership. Had extended warrenty but it don't cover electrics.
Grandfather had the same problem with his 02' Explorer 27k miles. Cost him over $900 until the dealer finally figured it out.The stealership knows what to charge.
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Originally Posted by PurerockRacing
so how long does that usually take to completely reset the PCM?
What is happening...is the PCM needs to re-learn your driving style.
Good luck...
biz
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Ok, we went dirt bike riding on Sunday, so I towed my trailer about 45 miles each way, some freeway, some streets, some dirt road, and all the way back again. I will check to see what codes are there tonite. Should the P1000 code go away by itself or do I still need to clear that manually with my decoder?
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Every time you clear the codes you reset all of the mode 6 data, (mode 6 data is the self test monitors req'd by the federal government), in order to rerun each of these self tests your vehicle has to be driven under the conditions necessary for each test to run, (i.e. fuel level in tank, engine temperature cycle, time at cruise followed by decel) these conditions would normally be met unknown to you through normal driving, at the point that all of the monitors have run the P1000 will clear itself, there is no way around it.
My guess would be the greater part of the $900 to replace the pcm is parts and sales tax, followed by a minimal labor charge to R&R the pcm and more significant charge to reload the necessary data and verify all is well, also included would probably be the time the tech spent determining the pcm was the cause of the symptom you brought the truck in for?
My guess would be the greater part of the $900 to replace the pcm is parts and sales tax, followed by a minimal labor charge to R&R the pcm and more significant charge to reload the necessary data and verify all is well, also included would probably be the time the tech spent determining the pcm was the cause of the symptom you brought the truck in for?
Last edited by gojoe; Nov 5, 2007 at 09:43 PM.
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so then after my recent drive arounds over the weekend, I should be able to hook up my scanner and just "look without clearing" to see if the P1000 code is there or not, if no codes are present I should be good to go right?
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Originally Posted by Monsta
I think the greater part of the $900 is to pad the dealership owner's pocket so that he can buy that new boat he's been eyeing.
