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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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brake calipers

I replaced my pads today on my 94 aero. mounting the calipers with those pins sure is a cheeseball system. Why didn't they just use a threaded bolt like most normal cars do??? After I put my new pads on and drove the anchor pins in the calipers just seem to be a little sloppy it's almost like you could grab a hold of them and yank them out, but I did everything right and all is working well. Also the anti rattler pins don't fit the new pads worth a @#@@ Is this just how these vans are as far as the fit of things
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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I believe that this is very common. I have a 94 and also have the same rattle noise that comes from the calipers. Dont worry If you installed them correctly they wont fall out
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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I had a ford E 350 motor home with that same cheeseball brake system. the pins on one side worked out and I noticed it in Fairbanks Alaska and had to pound them in with a rock on the side of the road. Pathetic.

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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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I know what you mean. At first I felt the same as you and then the last couple of Aeros I've had I guess that I've just grown accustomed to them. Most of the time the rubber that is in these spring pins are solid and stationary in the middle, but in some instances they either deteriorate/dry rot or slide to either side. Also, the metal "ears" on these spring pins will actually rub off which could be a disaster.

I do have a solution: I have tried several ideas and would never do anything without my best foot forward. I took and measured how long these pins are and then their diameter versus the actual diameter of their bore hole with a vereiner depth micrometer. My first thought was to reaply what Ford intended to do and then though differently. I didn't want another half thought out idea holding my calipers on again.

I came up with a design of bolt that screws into a nut-BUT-when installed looks like a bolt with two seperate bolt heads. These bolt heads protrude out away from their cavity 1/32'' of an inch which still allows for perfect clearance and are bigger than the hole (cavity) by an 1/8" of an inch. Lastly I have also drilled a small hole in the head and nut end and then applied my Air Force way of thinking and then safety wired (10 twists per inch-pretzel twist) from hole to hole with .032 thousandths steel safety wire which keeps them from backing out. 'PESTO CHANGO" no more worrying. For those that are worried. The safety wire keeps everything in place and I also put a paint mark on the heads to make sure there is no movement. A touch of lock tite wouldn't hurt either in this case too. I hope I have helped. If you or anyone else needs it I will post some pics on my application. Being a Jet Engine mechanic has made me aware of everything mechanical and when I see something poorly designed I am usually am the one to come up with the ideas.----Talk to you later Boz
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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That would be great if you could post some photos of your setup.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 9d4
I replaced my pads today on my 94 aero. mounting the calipers with those pins sure is a cheeseball system. Why didn't they just use a threaded bolt like most normal cars do??? After I put my new pads on and drove the anchor pins in the calipers just seem to be a little sloppy it's almost like you could grab a hold of them and yank them out, but I did everything right and all is working well. Also the anti rattler pins don't fit the new pads worth a @#@@ Is this just how these vans are as far as the fit of things

Ford recommends that the anchor pins be replace everytime they are taken apart. I think that's a little excessive, but they really are a disposable item. If in doubt, replace. What kind of aftermarket pads did you buy? There are some real poor aftermarket brake pads that are being sold. The "lifetime warranty" ones come to mind.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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9d4? I knew there was a reason I liked you-both my vans are 94's as well. If I'm not installing my vent windows in my extended sporty 4.0 tomorrow I will follow suite and snap some photos. My idea might not be for everyone. The other gentleman is correct and you'll never go wrong with newer pins. When I went to get them-it was my experience though that they had to order them and if you're like me I am usually tinkerly with my ride after hours or on weekends. Oh yeah, the Parts man usually says they will be in next week. Since I am usually having to drive that vehicle unless I have the fore thought to plan ahead this just won't do.-Boz
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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I belive I got the raybestos from shucks 29.99 specials. Are those pins available from anywhere other than the dealer
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Thanks Bozz. Hey I was looking at your profile I'm 19 days older than you 8-5 65
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Right on! Aren't these vans cool? I started out life driving in an 1964 Pontiac Catalina. Switched over my Junior year of H. S. to a 1976 Chevy Nova. Did the family thing in the late 80's to an 1985 Ford Tempo (piece of #$%). From there went to an 1985 Dodge 600 and an 1977 Chevy Malibu straight six. Currently my wife drives an 2000 Ford Windstar. My son drives an 1987 GMC Safari (my Ol' van). I'm driving the 94 Aero Extended "SPORT" that I just got off of E-Bay for 500 bucks with only 97 grand on the O. Small catch-it was wrecked in the Pas. from fender/bumper area. Took off damage then pulled out with a winch until body panels lines up-perfect fit-I think I got a good deal. It didn't have a hitch on it which means a sweet tranny on it. NO and I mean no dents or scratches on the black prestine paint. The dark blue fender and hood I'm using for now will remain until I find another black hood and fender. No need to repaint items-just a little patience needed.

Aero Junky:

1994 black extended "SPORT" 4.0
1994 blue extended Eddie Bauer 4-whl drv 4.0
1993 " 4.0 (spare for other Eddie Bauer)
1989 red extended 3.0
1992 dark blue shorty 3.0 for parts to repair my newest "SPORT"

Anyone out there with as many?--NO?--I thought so! ---"I WIN!--Boz

P.S. These things are like driving your couch out of the living room following your favorite football teams win on Sunday!
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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In high school I drove a 68 pontiac GTO which I still have today. I am a pontiac fanatic.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Poncho love no doubt + Aero's = true love across the board

68 goat? Yep I knew you were cool. Guess what I bought when I was stationed at Minot North Dakota back in 1992 for $2,800.00? Currently I have it at my folks garage back in Illinois?


A 1962 PONTIAC CATALINA. It is the 2 door sedan and the grocery getter 2 barrel and custom stainless steel exhaust. It spent its whole life in Bismark North Dakota since the fall of 1961 until I bought it. The gentleman I bought it off was the grandson of the woman that originally purchased it. He gave me all of the original receipts plus a giant factory Pontiac book. It is baby blue with a white top. I would like to find the 8 lug aluminum wheels.

Oh yeah, the 1964 P. Catalina 2 door hard top with 1968 GTO 400 360 H.P. with a 750 Holley Double pumper was my very first driver that my father gave me for High School. The body was starting to go but it would know kick most cars asses while 2 plugs were fouled.

Truelly I am also a Poncho man. But I have been back and forth with my love for Chevy Nova's and now the A E R O S T A R ------------B O Z
 
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