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Old Jul 21, 2001 | 04:11 PM
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A bunch of quest. I found a 6cyl with Clark 250 sitting on a trailer. Guestimating in the late 50's. Dist is on the right middle, oil filter is almost below the Dist (a little to the rear), The generator idle pully is a sliding mount similar to the flat head v8 generator mount. Engine mounts are truck style, 1 up under the crankshaft pully and one on each side of the bell housing. From reading through this section, I gather it is a 223, but I don't know how to tell. How far can a 223 be bored?
What are the thoughts on rebuilding this set up? How does the 223 compare to the 300 for power. I'm looking at putting it into a 63 F250 for a hobby work truck (Clark 250 has 2 PTO opening for winches, etc.) not driving the Interstate. Thanks, Bob
 
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I would go down to the local parts store and check on standard items such as fuel/water pumps, sparkplug wires etc. Then check on internal engine component availability. They don't keep much in stock for these older motors and you have to special order most everything if they can get it at all. Thats why I ditched my original six, since driving everyday, but having to order everything through the mail to repair it didn't seem practical.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 05:33 PM
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... Engine mounts are truck style, 1 up under the crankshaft pully and one on each side of the bell housing. ...
The motor mounts don't sound like those on my 223--I have two in the front, I think they have brackets that bolt onto either side of the block (the truck's not here or I would look). What do the manifolds look like? Tappett cover should be on the passenger's side. It's about 4" tall and runs the length of the engine. Two bolts to hold it down (IIRC-WIFD).

If you can find a motor number, one of us may be able to tell you more. I think it's on the driver's side of the block, under the manifolds.

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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 09:27 PM
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More info; Only #'s I could find. EAA-6015-0. Passengers side, fuel pump, oil filter, dist, dip stick. 2 belts, 1=crank to fan,2=crank,water pump,generator. Almost flat oil pan,shallow dip in the rear. Looks as if there could be motor mount bosses on the side of the engine. (pass side between fuel pump & oil filter). Oil filter is a canister with a throwaway insert. Not more current spin on type. There is a long sheetmetal removable
panel on the pass side which I assume is how the tappets are adjusted. Hope this gives some clues. Thanks, Bob
 
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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 11:15 PM
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Here is some more info; only # I could find. EAA-6015-0 below the manifolds. Passenger side, fuel pump, dip stick ,oil filter, fuel pump. 2 belts; 1- crank to fan, 2- crank, water pump, generator. Looks as if there are boses in the block for a motor mount each side(2 bolts ea). Thanks, Bob
 
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Old Jul 28, 2001 | 01:44 PM
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I'll have a peak at my engine today and get back to you.

Here's a picture of a 223 that shows the manifolds:
http://www.swatek.com/mike/truck_engine_left-13mar98.jpg
source: [link:www.swatek.com/truck.htm|http://www.swatek.com/truck.htm]
You can also see the crankcase breather tube on the rear of the engine. (My dip stick is on the other side.)

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Old Jul 31, 2001 | 03:46 PM
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Bob,

I've had a good look at the engine and made some notes. I also have the shop and parts manual here. I fibbed to you about the dip stick, mine is on the left, just like the one in the photo. The block number that you have is pretty close to mine, I have "EDP-6015-L". That may be a part number--the 1960 parts book lists the 223 engine as part number "B7A 6010-A"

It cost me about $1600 to have my 223 rebuilt by a shop that does racing engines--that was about 18 months back. Parts were not a problem. I have been surprised what kinds of parts are in stock here (Tucson, AZ).

If the engine you are looking at has a front motor mount with only one bushing under the center of the engine, then it is probably a 1954-56 vintage engine. I have an illustration that shows both types of brackets.

Let me know if you need any more help with the ID, etc..

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The single mounting point on the front sounds like an industrial setup. Lots of old welding machines had the 223 on them and had the single front/dual back setup.
 
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I think you have a 215. The block part number would be EAA-6010 and the head would be EAA-6049 for the 215. If it was a 223, these would be EBP-6010 and EBP-6049.
 
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With the distributor in the middle of the block, it has to be a 215.
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