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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Coolant Filter Install

I got the coolant filter kit from Dieselsite and today I installed it. This kit had everything I needed except some teflon tape for the threaded fittings, and took me about 45 minutes to do. It would have only taken about 30 minutes, but I had to hunt down my "plumbing box" to find the teflon tape. What can I say, my garage is like 10 pounds of apples in a 5 pound bag....

I will be opening up the filters as I change them out to see how much crud is removed from the system, and will keep you updated on the results. I wish I could have found the digital camera but my better half has it somewhere, otherwise I'd have some pics to go with the story.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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"I will be opening up the filters as I change them out to see how much crud is removed from the system, and will keep you updated on the results."

I thought coolant filters were more for treating the coolant, not filtering it?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wanabe2

I thought coolant filters were more for treating the coolant, not filtering it?
there can be left over sand from when your block was cast. the filter helps get rid of it.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Wanabe2, as the term clearly describes, filters are for filtering. You don't expect your oil filter to treat the oil, do you? You don't expect your air filter to treat the incoming air charge, do you? Why would a coolant filter treat the coolant? It makes no sense at all to me why you would think that a coolant filter would treat the coolant rather than just filtering it...

For what it's worth, no the coolant filter does not treat the coolant. It removes impurities like the above mentioned sand left over from the casting process, any rust or scale that comes loose, particulates that could enter with the water you add(if you don't use distilled water), etc. These impurities can cause wear on the water pump, seals, hoses, and other cooling system components.

I'll have to get the camera back from my sweetie and I'll bet most folks would be suprised at how much is in that first filter, unless they've seen it before. I saw pics of a filter that was opened up and that was enough to convince me that this was one of the mods I wanted to do early on. The 6.0 PSD has plenty enough power for my needs, so most of the mods I'm thinking about doing are pretty much all reliability, longevity, functionality or economy related.

OK guys, I found the pics of an opened coolant filter. They are in Beachbumcook's album, linked below. What a nasty mess!! That's what I want out of my truck's cooling system....

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...&albumid=18022
 

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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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wow daddy cat .. go easy on him .. he just asked a simple question. You could have just said no, it filters instead of lambasting the poor guy
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by wanabe2
I thought coolant filters were more for treating the coolant, not filtering it?
TNT, I'd expect tat anyone who's driving a truck like the SD would have at least a basic understanding of something as simple as a filter... I mean come on, the name says it all.

As far as I'm concerned this isn't a lambasting, just a statement that I have difficulty understanding where he'd get such an idea(w/ examples, especailly since he said "...not filtering it?"), along with a simple explanation of what the filter does take out and a link to show what the material it removes looks like. I didn't get derogatory, name call or become uncivil.

I'm not trying to get in a squabble with you or anyone else, and while you seem to be of the opinion that my comments were perhaps a bit abrupt(you have every right to your opinion, that's what makes America great), wanabe2 obviously had a major misunderstanding of what this system does and needed to be set straight. What would you be thinking if I said something like "I thought the treatment system was more for filtering the fluid, not treating it"???
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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He does have a point about treating the coolant. There is an SCA additive that is needed to be added to the "green" coolant every year, or whenever it gets out of spec. Running a "charged" filter has a salt-block like mass in the bottom of the filter that slowly releases this SCA so you don't need it. I just changed my filter friday night, it had a charge in it. I replaced it with an un-charged one. Im taking it to school on monday and using the filter cutter, to see how much crap was in it.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by thedaddycat
TNT, I'd expect tat anyone who's driving a truck like the SD would have at least a basic understanding of something as simple as a filter... I mean come on, the name says it all.
well your wrong. not all coolant filtes have additives but alot of them do. http://www.wixfilters.com/productinf...ntfilters.html right off of wix's site. Coolant filters mechanically filter the coolant through a fine media, removing impurities such as sand and rust particles suspended in the cooling system. The coolant filter also conditions the coolant by softening the water to minimize scale deposits, maintains a neutral to slightly alkaline condition in the coolant, and prevents rust.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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TNT, I'd expect tat anyone who's driving a truck like the SD would have at least a basic understanding of something as simple as a filter... I mean come on, the name says it all.
Ok, here's a little basic understanding for you. There's a reason that many medium and heavy duty diesel engines come with a coolant filter while gas engines don't. The idea for a coolant filter for the diesel engines came from the fact that the SCA's that were used in the coolant causes precipitate to form in the coolant (scale) that protects the cylinder walls. The precipititate tends to flake off and become entraned in the coolant which acts as an abrasive and causes wear to both the water pump and the engine blocks and head. The real purpose of a coolant filter on the International engines is not to remove casting sand but to maintain the SCA levels by charging (treating) the coolant with the additive, and at the same time removing the entrained precipitate that forms due to the SCA. So before you accuse someone of not having a basic understanding of something as simple as a filter, make sure you have a basic understanding yourself, or you might make yourself look like a jackass.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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well I just changed out the coolant filter (from Dieselsite also), on my 05 F250 PSD,
after 2000 miles, I did cut it open, and found some very fine sediment, not a whole lot, but enough to tell me it is working!! this is a good investment for the longevity of your engine... and of course all of this is credited to this FTE site, I never knew about these coolant filter systems, and within one week, I made the purchase and installed it!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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OK guys, I guess I'm the one with the misunderstanding about it all.Thanks for setting me straight. Now I've been educated about it.

My purpose was not to get on anyone's case, I thought I was helping which is why I took the time and put the effort into looking for the pics and posting the link. Guess I'll have to work on that "thinking" thing.....

If you can't laugh at yourself, you're leaving it up to everyone else to laugh at you.....
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Just trying to give you a little help daddycat, just did not expect to get a good axx reaming in the process.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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One of the things to notice is that dieselsite not longer sells sells the filters with the SCAs in them, they only sell the untreated filters as the treated filters can end up adding too much or people rely on them and don't check and don't add enough so their thoughts are the SCAs should be checked and added as necessary independent of the filter. I happen to agree with this.

Also if your truck came from the factory with the "gold" coolant or you have converted over to it, you don't need the SCA's anymore and adding them through the filter is actually the wrong thing to do.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Since I am getting read to replace a water pump, this filter might be a good investment?? Where is the best place to by the kit with everything?? Dave
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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I bought mine from dieselsite.com and it had everything I needed.
 
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