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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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2004 vs. 2003

Sorry to be posting such a simple question, but my brother is looking at getting a used 2004 F150 supercrew... his concern is that it is the "first year" for the "newer" model.. however.. am I correct in thinking that the drivetrain is the same?

What were the major changes other than cosmetics.. and has there been many issues with this "first generation" of new style F150s

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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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The 04's were the first year with the 3v 5.4l's. Watch out for the spark plugs getting stuck in the heads when they need to be changed. The 04's also have a higher rate of vibrations, brakes problems, the computers will usually need to be flash upgraded to get rid of electronic throttle hesitations. The clutch paks in the limited slip diffs also were also giving problems and usually needed to be replaced under warranty. If it at all possible, it would be a smart idea to avoid the 04's. As my Ford dealer likes to tell me when I have issues with my 04, "Never buy a first model year of any ford product." If he is really stuck on getting an 04, ask the dealer for an Oasis report. That will show all the problems that were fixed at the ford dealer.
 

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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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So you think that an '03 would be a better choice then?

Seems like everyone around here is either an '03 or an '04.. plus he is trying to stay in budget for his business, he is hoping to find one that is 50K miles or less and around $20K max...

Thanks.. just trying to have him not get a Toyota.. (which is "the other" he is looking at) LOL

-Mel
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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I recently bought a used 04 and have not had any problems yet, honestly with 50K miles, you are likely to have any new model bugs it would have had, already fixed by the previous owner. All vehicles new and used have issues, its just that you will see a lot of issues on a forum, because that is where most people come first to seek advice to a problem they are having. Doctors dont typically make people sick, but if you go to a doctors office, you are going to find a lot of sick people. Its how you want to look at things I guess. I think the benefits to owning a newer bodystyle, interior, and engine upgrades are worth it to me at least especially for a company vehicle, and especially with one with 50K miles. It has been driven enough to work through the problems.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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I have an 04 STX reg cab 2X4, 4.6L with the LS 3.55 rear. No problems at 37K. Well, OK, just one, the non-powered sliding rear window rattles. No rattles other than that, no vibrations, tires and brakes wearing well. He could look at the 04 Heritage line. They are really 03 leftovers.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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I have an 04 STX reg cab 2X4, 4.6L with the LS 3.55 rear. No problems at 37K. Well, OK, just one, the non-powered sliding rear window rattles. No rattles other than that, no vibrations, tires and brakes wearing well. He could look at the 04 Heritage line. They are really 03 leftovers.
the one he was lookin at was put in service october 03... I dunno if it is a heritage.. it has 45K miles on it... sharp lookin' truck.. I think the new body style is the bees knees.

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Drive train on the new design 04's is not the same, newer beefier transmission on the 5.4 units, braking system redesigned, larger brakes, beefier box frame, better ride due to newer suspension geometry.
Clutch pac problems were also in the 97 and newer as was the ring and pinion problems.
I have an 04 Lariat SCREW and have not had any braking problems or vibration issues as one has posted.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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For 20k he could be looking at 05's anyways. I test drove the 03 and 04 before purchasing, and the 04 was clearly a winner. Just go sit in/drive one!
 
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