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Originally Posted by dwaymar
....if i had known you was lookin for another truck i could have gave ya a good deal on one of the ones i am having ship down here but hinsite is 2020 both of them will be ariving here sunday did't cost anything the neibour was up there and brought them back on trailer he hauls a parkinglot so cheep is me
The guy who had the current high bid had obviously bid $2k even as his max, because over the last few minutes a few other people bid and it got up to $1725 but the high bidder never changed. Then I bid $2050 with only about 5-10 seconds left and I was actually shocked when I won it. I figured the guy who was "holding" the high bid was going to bid it out of sight....
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A dually axle is 4" wider than a SRW axle measuring from back plate to back plate.
That 4" (2" on each side lets the tires clear the springs)
A truck that left the factory with a pickup box installed on it has a 37.5" frame.
If it left the factory as a cab and chassis, the frame is 34" wide.
The axle under a cab and chassis is the same size as the one under a SRW truck, and you can run duals on it because the frame and springs are closer together.
An F250 never left the factory with dual wheels.
The other option for installing dual wheels is spacers to move the wheels out.
But that is not a good idea if you are carrying weight, they cause a strange bearing loading.
That 4" (2" on each side lets the tires clear the springs)
A truck that left the factory with a pickup box installed on it has a 37.5" frame.
If it left the factory as a cab and chassis, the frame is 34" wide.
The axle under a cab and chassis is the same size as the one under a SRW truck, and you can run duals on it because the frame and springs are closer together.
An F250 never left the factory with dual wheels.
The other option for installing dual wheels is spacers to move the wheels out.
But that is not a good idea if you are carrying weight, they cause a strange bearing loading.
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
A dually axle is 4" wider than a SRW axle measuring from back plate to back plate.
That 4" (2" on each side lets the tires clear the springs)
A truck that left the factory with a pickup box installed on it has a 37.5" frame.
If it left the factory as a cab and chassis, the frame is 34" wide.
The axle under a cab and chassis is the same size as the one under a SRW truck, and you can run duals on it because the frame and springs are closer together.
An F250 never left the factory with dual wheels.
The other option for installing dual wheels is spacers to move the wheels out.
But that is not a good idea if you are carrying weight, they cause a strange bearing loading.
That 4" (2" on each side lets the tires clear the springs)
A truck that left the factory with a pickup box installed on it has a 37.5" frame.
If it left the factory as a cab and chassis, the frame is 34" wide.
The axle under a cab and chassis is the same size as the one under a SRW truck, and you can run duals on it because the frame and springs are closer together.
An F250 never left the factory with dual wheels.
The other option for installing dual wheels is spacers to move the wheels out.
But that is not a good idea if you are carrying weight, they cause a strange bearing loading.
I'm thinking this one was done with spacers. Notice how in the first picture the bed appears to be standard width. Then looking at the second you can see that the gap between the inner and outer rear tires pretty much lines up just inboard of where the wheel well opening would be in the side of a the bed if it didn't have the dually flares - almost in the same location as single rear wheels would be.
I'm sure hoping it is a standard width rear axle. It will save me some money by being able to swap it instead of having to regear it.
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I never noticed the 250 part. Ooops. It will be interesting to see how they put the duals on. I built one like that years ago. Made my own steel spacers and used 1 ton wheels. The guy did end up packing 2 spares.
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Originally Posted by Spectramac
I never noticed the 250 part. Ooops. It will be interesting to see how they put the duals on. I built one like that years ago. Made my own steel spacers and used 1 ton wheels. The guy did end up packing 2 spares.
Say, I was wondering, anybody want to hazard a guess whether this is a wastegated or non-wastegated turbo, based on this picture?
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I must be the luckiest guy alive to have the wife I've got. See, right now I have a total of 8 vehicles sitting out in the garage, driveway, and next to the shed behind the house. And here I went and "accidentally" bought this other truck.
Well, needless to say, my wife was none too happy to hear about my latest purchase when I told her about it last night. Then, on top of that I had to tell her tonight that I have to travel 750 miles to go get it.
But you know what? We just finished having a little discussion about it, and I committed to getting rid of a couple of them. And with that, SHE FORGIVES ME! I guess that's why we celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary last night. She puts up with me and forgives me when I do something (semi) stupid. Like buy a 9th vehicle - something I need even LESS than another hole in my head.
I thank GOD for such a good and understanding wife. I surely don't deserve her.
Well, needless to say, my wife was none too happy to hear about my latest purchase when I told her about it last night. Then, on top of that I had to tell her tonight that I have to travel 750 miles to go get it.
But you know what? We just finished having a little discussion about it, and I committed to getting rid of a couple of them. And with that, SHE FORGIVES ME! I guess that's why we celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary last night. She puts up with me and forgives me when I do something (semi) stupid. Like buy a 9th vehicle - something I need even LESS than another hole in my head.
I thank GOD for such a good and understanding wife. I surely don't deserve her.
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Yeah Cheeper, you are lucky to have the support of your wife. It makes having to go missing for 16 hours much easier to explain. I was wondering how your were going to pull that one off.
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cheeper. that is a non wastegated banks unit.
the easy way to tell the difference with the srw and drw front axle is the offset on the axle flange. that truck most likely has a drw axle in the rear. the hint for saying that is that the rear axle was switched, and the gear ratios do not match.
the easy way to tell the difference with the srw and drw front axle is the offset on the axle flange. that truck most likely has a drw axle in the rear. the hint for saying that is that the rear axle was switched, and the gear ratios do not match.
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congrats to you and your bride may you have another 20 mine said if i pull this one again that i will not live another 20 jeepers you know what i'm talking about espesialy< how ever ya spell it> since i have not even seen the two i just bought
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
cheeper. that is a non wastegated banks unit.
the easy way to tell the difference with the srw and drw front axle is the offset on the axle flange. that truck most likely has a drw axle in the rear. the hint for saying that is that the rear axle was switched, and the gear ratios do not match.
the easy way to tell the difference with the srw and drw front axle is the offset on the axle flange. that truck most likely has a drw axle in the rear. the hint for saying that is that the rear axle was switched, and the gear ratios do not match.
He said the "blowby" issue is that it is pushing out a little bit of oil vapor when you take teh oil filler cap off - I'm thinking probably a sticky CDR. The tranny "growl" is that he said it is a little noisey - but only in first & 2nd gear. Maybe a little low on gear lube? I dunno - I'll see when I get there. As for mileage, he said the truck has around 140k on it, but that the guy he got it from replaced the engine at 75k.
So, at thia point I'm moving forward with the deal and will be buying my ticket next week...
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I was looking at those pictures again, the tires sure do look close together.
As for the spacers, the only way to tell by looking is how far the axle protrudes through the wheel. 6" and it is a dually rear end, 3" and it has spacers on it.
The growl in the tranny is probably a bushing that is starting to show some wear.
Not really a big deal to repair, and not that expensive.
As for the spacers, the only way to tell by looking is how far the axle protrudes through the wheel. 6" and it is a dually rear end, 3" and it has spacers on it.
The growl in the tranny is probably a bushing that is starting to show some wear.
Not really a big deal to repair, and not that expensive.
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[QUOTE=Dave Sponaugle]A dually axle is 4" wider than a SRW axle measuring from back plate to back plate.
That 4" (2" on each side lets the tires clear the springs)[QUOTE]
Just out of curiosity, how wide is a dually (or single) axle? My truck has long wheel studs on the drums but single wheels, the box is not original so I'm not quite sure how to tell.
Guy
That 4" (2" on each side lets the tires clear the springs)[QUOTE]
Just out of curiosity, how wide is a dually (or single) axle? My truck has long wheel studs on the drums but single wheels, the box is not original so I'm not quite sure how to tell.
Guy
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I do not remember the measurement right now, but I will get it tomorrow.
If the frame rails are 37.5" outside to outside, it left the factory with a pickup box installed.
If the frame rails are 34" outside to outside, it left the factory as a cab and chassis.
If the frame rails are 37.5" outside to outside, it left the factory with a pickup box installed.
If the frame rails are 34" outside to outside, it left the factory as a cab and chassis.
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Originally Posted by CheaperJeeper
See, right now I have a total of 8 vehicles sitting out in the garage, driveway, and next to the shed behind the house. But you know what? We just finished having a little discussion about it, and I committed to getting rid of a couple of them.