Diff between a 239 and 292? - Help, help, help - Thx
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Diff between a 239 and 292? - Help, help, help - Thx
Hi all,
Bought a motor from a yard specializing in older vehicles. After a number of snafus, now the machine shop is telling me that the block is appears to be a 239.
When I first saw it, I thought it was a 292 because it has the ram-horn style exhaust manifolds and a distributor in the back/right. Cover under the intake looks like my old engine. The predominant color appears to be either deep orange or red.
Per the machine shop, the casting numbers are as follows:
* Heads - EBU6090
* Block - EBU6015F
I hope this is a case of mistaken identity on the machine shop's part and that 292s aren't just bored out 239s. Machine shop says this was a truck engine in 54-55.
If this is a 239, I just inherited a basket of snakes just regarding the shipping back and forth. But I'm whining....
Thanks for the help!!
Greg
Bought a motor from a yard specializing in older vehicles. After a number of snafus, now the machine shop is telling me that the block is appears to be a 239.
When I first saw it, I thought it was a 292 because it has the ram-horn style exhaust manifolds and a distributor in the back/right. Cover under the intake looks like my old engine. The predominant color appears to be either deep orange or red.
Per the machine shop, the casting numbers are as follows:
* Heads - EBU6090
* Block - EBU6015F
I hope this is a case of mistaken identity on the machine shop's part and that 292s aren't just bored out 239s. Machine shop says this was a truck engine in 54-55.
If this is a 239, I just inherited a basket of snakes just regarding the shipping back and forth. But I'm whining....
Thanks for the help!!
Greg
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Diff between a 239 and 292? - Help, help, help - Thx
The 239 was the first of the "Y"-Blocks which ultimately evolved into the 312. Bore and stroke are as follows: 239: 3.50X3.10 - 272: 3.62X3.30 - 292: 3.75X3.30 - 312: 3.80X3.44 It would seem that a 239 block could be bored to 3.75 and the 3.30 crank from a 292 could be installed to achieve a 292 of sorts; but I'm not an expert on these engines so I don't know for sure. Of course, once you hunted up all the parts you'd need, you'd be better off finding a 292 block. Years ago I had a 312 police "interceptor" engine. It had awesome intake valves and very high compression heads. 292s are the most common and were used in the cars up to early 60s and the trucks until '65 maybe. Unless you're a real Y-Block expert, you'd be hard pressed to see any obvious difference between a 239 and a 292. I would hope a knowledgable person out there could give you the casting numbers for the various blocks in this family.
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Diff between a 239 and 292? - Help, help, help - Thx
You have a 1954 passenger car block and heads.
The 54-5 truck ID is EBV for 239 cubes.
Go here for more info:
http://www.ford-y-block.com/dimensions.htm
You are just one of many recently who have wound up with the wrong block. Sorry to hear about the unnecessary expense and frustration.
Carl
1954 F-350 original EBV 239
The 54-5 truck ID is EBV for 239 cubes.
Go here for more info:
http://www.ford-y-block.com/dimensions.htm
You are just one of many recently who have wound up with the wrong block. Sorry to hear about the unnecessary expense and frustration.
Carl
1954 F-350 original EBV 239
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Diff between a 239 and 292? - Help, help, help - Thx
Hi all,
Update on my snafu. I had the machine shop and the yard compare notes. And yes, the yard did pull this 239 out of an old P/U. It appears that the original short block & heads were exchanged with the 239. All of the other items like the intake, exhaust manifolds, etc are off of a 292. Not being an expert in the blocks, it sure got past me. The shop picked up on it due to the 3.5" pistons.
Long story short is that the yard is going to make good on the motor. They volunteered to ship another 292 short block/heads directly to my mechanic. My mechanic can then cherry pick the parts off of the two motors. At my leasure, I can return the 239 short block & heads. As I have friends near the yard, it makes for a good excuse to visit.
Its too bad the 239 block isn't correct because the mechanic reports that other than having a previous rebuild, it looks pretty good inside.
Many thanks for the info. It confirmed what I have learned over the last couple of days.
Have a great day,
Greg
Update on my snafu. I had the machine shop and the yard compare notes. And yes, the yard did pull this 239 out of an old P/U. It appears that the original short block & heads were exchanged with the 239. All of the other items like the intake, exhaust manifolds, etc are off of a 292. Not being an expert in the blocks, it sure got past me. The shop picked up on it due to the 3.5" pistons.
Long story short is that the yard is going to make good on the motor. They volunteered to ship another 292 short block/heads directly to my mechanic. My mechanic can then cherry pick the parts off of the two motors. At my leasure, I can return the 239 short block & heads. As I have friends near the yard, it makes for a good excuse to visit.
Its too bad the 239 block isn't correct because the mechanic reports that other than having a previous rebuild, it looks pretty good inside.
Many thanks for the info. It confirmed what I have learned over the last couple of days.
Have a great day,
Greg
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