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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Thumbs up supercharged v6 swap

any of u experts have any tips on putting a supercoupe engine and tranny in a 68 f250 4x4?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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folsomford Welcome to FTE the nations #1 truck stop for tech support.

I hate to have to say it but I think the truck is too big for that engine and the tranny probably wont hook up either.

Maybe someone with more knowlege than me will differ.

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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thanks, but i had brackets made for in between the frame and mounts and a custom driveshaft made to go to the divorced tcase. so the engine and tranny are already installed. the stock supercharged v6 has 205hp and 315tq. so that easily smokes the 360fe that was in there. the tranny is a m5r2 which was used in f150 4x4s. i was looking for advice on the wiring, gauges, fuel pump, power brakes and so on.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by folsomford
thanks, but i had brackets made for in between the frame and mounts and a custom driveshaft made to go to the divorced tcase. so the engine and tranny are already installed. the stock supercharged v6 has 205hp and 315tq. so that easily smokes the 360fe that was in there. the tranny is a m5r2 which was used in f150 4x4s. i was looking for advice on the wiring, gauges, fuel pump, power brakes and so on.
Well why didn't ya say so???

Good luck on smoking the 360 with the V6 in that big 4X4. I suspect you have at least 3000 more pounds to move around over the coupe. IMHO The V6 is gonna run out of breath real fast pulling that wagon.

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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The best thing to do on the guages is replace the entire cluster with one from Haneline or someone like that and AutoMeter gauges, then you can use modern sending units and an electric speedo.

Brakes?? What's the question? Are you hoping to run vacum driven power brakes?

Fuel pump?? What's the question? Is the gas tank still behind the seat? There are lots of electric fuel pumps that will work.

The rest of the wiring, you're just gonna have to figure out. Going with Autometer gauges will solve some of the problem. There are wiriing diagrams available from LMC that would be a big help.

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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yeah i was hoping to have power brakes. the gas tank is still behind the seat. i had a crossmember moved to fit a gas tank between the frame behind the rear axle. the body shop was supposed to install that and a fuel door between the wheel well and the tail light but he gave me a runaround so i will probably use the one behind the seat. i was hoping to use the original cluster, maybe one from a f700 grain truck. i'll check out haneline.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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you kept the engine harness and computer i assume. you can probably get on one of the mustang or tbird forums to get a pinout for your hot and grounds to get the pc on. jds sells a good walbro inline that will fit the fuel bill. youll need a return line for the fuel and either a vent or a vented gas cap. stinger performance might be able to get you some info also on the wiring stuff. good luck
 
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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I would believe that the 360 would have the torque curve much lower than that with the V6.. You will probably have to wind it out to get the torque to move 6000 pounds, almost double of a T-bird/Cougar. The V6 would be cammed and computerized for HP, not torque production needed to move an F-250. A supercharger can only go so far to compensate for cubic inches/liters: 360(5.9) vs 232(3.8).
 
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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i guess thats why some of us are running stock 200,000 mile 2.3 turbo blocks and are running in the 10's? cubic inches
 
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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Steve, You are not doing that in a F250 4X4. That is what we are talking about. The 6,000 lbs of Detroit iron is gonna suck the life out of the V6. IMHO

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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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i am inclined to agree but im curious to see what it does when its actually together and running. got a friend that used to have a straight six in his jeep and since going to a 2.3 turbo it outclimbs outpulls and gets better gas mileage than before.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Again, not to argue but, a jeep aint a 6000 pound F250.

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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Ya, that's a great engine for a jeep, love to have one in my FJ40. Let us know how it comes out.

Peter
 
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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i think a couple of you need to do some research on that overweight, gas guzzlin, low compression battleship anchor of a 360. try not to be confused with all them cubic inches(360). 6000 lbs? where are you getting your information? clear it up anyway.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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All we are saying is that a supercharger won't compensate for cubic inches for torque. We aren't saying that you should keep the 360. There are plenty of other good engines out there to replace the 360, but V6's aren't known for the low rpm torque that that F-250 needs to get moving anywhere. At what rpm is the torque peak for that Essex 232 (3.8)? Probably 3400 rpm where you will have to slip the clutch to get that 5500-6000 lbs moving. The 360 , I'm guessing puts out its peak torque at 1800. It will take a lot of gas for the Essex to move the 250 up to speed.
 
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