Notices
Audio & Video Systems, Navigation, Satellite Radio & Mobile Electronics
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

NAV system while vehicle is in motion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 10:36 AM
  #1  
WL's Avatar
WL
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
NAV system while vehicle is in motion

The NAV system limits use while the vehicle is moving. Any way to disable this uber "safety feature" ? Funny how you can use the Zoom feature while moving, however, the "pan" and "mark" buttons are locked out until the vehicle is stopped. What about my passenger navigator?!?!
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 04:51 PM
  #2  
ReAX's Avatar
ReAX
Post Fiend
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,007
Likes: 4
From: Central Florida
If it is aftermarket, look for wires going to the brake pedal or controller harness. Your Year, make and model, and what nav system may help someone answer this for you.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:27 AM
  #3  
WL's Avatar
WL
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
OEM navigation system on an '04 Expedition.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:26 PM
  #4  
ReAX's Avatar
ReAX
Post Fiend
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,007
Likes: 4
From: Central Florida
Pin 14: Vehicle Speed Sensor - Gray/Black: This wire is used for the speed sensitive volume on the OEM radio. If down the line you add a navigation system that has a hookup for VSS, this is the wire you want. For a normal radio, not required.


Source: http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/....asp?TID=56609
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:27 PM
  #5  
ReAX's Avatar
ReAX
Post Fiend
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,007
Likes: 4
From: Central Florida
I am not sure how to by-pass it, but try unplugging it.
 
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:38 PM
  #6  
mexlariat01's Avatar
mexlariat01
New User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: SD, Ca
What you do is look for the wire that limits the play while moving and find a good ground and ground it. That will make the nav system think that its stop and you will be able to bypass it. Now remember that is how you do it for a nav system/dvd player in dash. Thats what I did in my Chevy and Acura for my In dash monitor. I had Kenwoods. Hope this helps. Always disconnect the battery before you start.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:29 AM
  #7  
XylemXorro's Avatar
XylemXorro
Tuned
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 344
Likes: 2
Wink

Also check the Excursion thread. We were just talking about it, and some good pics were uploaded detailing exactly what you need to do
 
Reply
Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:12 PM
  #8  
bridge's Avatar
bridge
Sick 'n Tired
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,969
Likes: 47
From: League City, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
I've been trying to figure this out for the last couple of days. The system depends on input from the ABS module. It outputs the speed sensor signal. I tried pulling the ABS fuse to see if the NAV functions would work without getting the speed sensor signal but the NAV does not work when this is done. There is an ongoing thread in the Expy forum on this...
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 28, 2006 | 08:07 PM
  #9  
corniceman's Avatar
corniceman
Junior User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
I was at the www.avic411.com forums and found that the AVIC-N3 has a hiden swich on the back of the unit behind a sticker that says woranty void if removed. If you move the swich over it bypasses the motion safty feature. Other units may have similar feature.
 
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2006 | 08:18 PM
  #10  
bridge's Avatar
bridge
Sick 'n Tired
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,969
Likes: 47
From: League City, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by corniceman
Other units may have similar feature.
Unfortunatly, the factory Ford NAV systems do not...If it did it would save me a great deal of time and trouble. But then again, what fun would that be?
 
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:10 PM
  #11  
snowbilt's Avatar
snowbilt
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Who makes the navigation/radio anyway?
 
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:59 PM
  #12  
snowbilt's Avatar
snowbilt
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
did some searching and visteon makes the nav systems. I have searched google everyway I can think of. Here is what I come up with basically same solution that has been discussed before. The drawback is the same as the other solution
http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/s...stem+passenger
 
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:47 PM
  #13  
bridge's Avatar
bridge
Sick 'n Tired
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,969
Likes: 47
From: League City, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
Good find, I was wondering what would happen if an interrupt switch was installed on the VSS wire. The speed sensor produces a waveform that increases in frequency with increased speed. There should/might be a way to alter that frequency in-line to fool the NAV into thinking it's not moving; or at least find the threshold frequency that trips the tracking on/off. I have noticed that the unit will function at just above idle speeds.
 
Reply
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:53 PM
  #14  
snowbilt's Avatar
snowbilt
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
BUMP...Just keeping the dream alive....
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2006 | 10:46 AM
  #15  
bridge's Avatar
bridge
Sick 'n Tired
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,969
Likes: 47
From: League City, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
I hoping to crack the dash this afternoon and start toying. I'll let you guys know what I find.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:26 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 10:59:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE