i have a 2006 psd 5000 miles. wonder how the new fuel will effect it and if i sould be using an add. such as kleen.

 

I use Power Service on each fill up. Not only helps to keep from clouding and gelling, but most importantly, adds lubricity back to the fuel. The extra refining processes used to remove the sulfur in ULSD takes out some of the lubricating property of diesel fuel, and seems like a good idea to me to replace it, even thought the refineries are supposed to be putting additives in the fuel, (from what I read).

 

If the ULSD ruins my engine, I'll sue the oil companies (all of them) and get a new truck.
AND support for the rest of my life.

 

Boy.. the American Way of life.... no wonder we all pay higher prices... it is becuase of this mentality.

ULSF (15ppm) will not hurt your motor. It all meets a federal mandated ASTM level for EPA requirements and industry performance requirements.

Boy... sure hope you were joking???

 

But *IF* anything ever does go wrong with my engine..... I get to sue ....Right ?????

 

We are speaking of fuel....

So here is what your up against.. but yes, you can sue... will you win... probably not... but, yes you can sue...

1) You would have to prove that the motor failure you have is due to the fuel.

2) Was all maintenance done on time and with 100% OEM parts and fluids - do you have all receipts??

3) Do you have a sample of the fuel in question and can you prove from which station or brand it is or came from (very hard one here).

4) Can you afford to test the diesel fuel to insure that it does or does not meet the ASTM standard - independent lab.

5) Do you have a certified diesel mechanic and engineer that can prove that it was the fuel and not something else caused the problem you claim?

6) Were there others that filled up at this station and had a problem?

7) How do you prove that the fuel in your tank is 100% that stations or brand of fuel?

8) Do you have the money and time to front such a suit?


This is "business law 101" and you have to prove beyond a resonable doubt that it was the fuel that cuased your problem - very hard to do.... and I think you will agree.

All you can do is use a name brand diesel fuel and try to by fresh fuel from a high-volume dealer. Change your filters and do your maintanence on time... and you should be fine. The runors that ULSF diesel is bad or will harm one's motors is false and without any merit... but it makes for good threads on various forums.

What I take exception too....is the comemnt that "I'll sue".... and that people want or like to sue for every little thing. Ever wonder why people have a hard time suing the cigerette companies and various pharmacetical companies... it is very hard to prove and it takes a lot of time and money... and very few every see any money... a few do... but it then gets tied up in appeals court for years.... so in the meantime.... what are you going to drive!!!!

 

But... I have been reading these forums & lots of people say the ULSF is going to damage my engine. Isn't that enough ? I sure know the Low Sulpher Fuel we have been useing for years now lived up to it's expectations & ruined engines everyday.
The people on these very forums said it would.
And what about the Unleaded gas?? It has surely hurt my 49 2N Ford tractor after all these years of running it.

 

I have been running ULSD for the past half dozen tanks or so with absolutely no problems. I still use PowerService at each fill just like I did with LSD, but like Beachbumcook has said ULSD meets all mandates so no additives are required.

Also on another note. I was speaking to a employee at the fuel distributor I used to work for and was told that even though LSD is still available it is not LSD as we used to know it. Todays LSD is nothing more than ULSD that did not pass QC for sulfur content.

 

My truck only has 368,000+ miles on it & I just KNOW it's headed for an early death due to the fuel.

 

My 06 f350 has never had anything but ULSD and I have not had any problems.

Lots of people say Elvis is alive. Does that make it true?

 

So this must be how those "Ford owns Cummins!" rumors get started...

 

Are you trying to tell me that EVERYTHING I see here isn't the absolute truth?

Oh woh is me.... Who am I going to believe now?????????

 

The only problem will be with the older than 10-15 year old vehicles which was designed for the high sulfur fuel (+500ppm) fuel. In those cases I would use a fuel lubricant to help with lubrication of IP, injectors and other fuel parts.

 

Is that like the problem with my old Ford tractor? Late 30's early 40's gas. Needs leaded gas or it will burn out the valves??? Wonder when that will happen?? Hasn't in the last 40 yrs since I started using the unleaded.

 

I believe the unleaded fuel came into play in the early 70's. I use a gas additive for my 1967 farm truck for many years and it purrrrs right along.(lead substitute)

I would just use a additive or biodiesel for lubrication of parts in the older diesels. I have a 1978 combine, 1967 tractor, 1965 tractor all diesels. I've been using biodiesel for 7 years now and have had no problems. B20 summer- - -B5 winter.