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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Hopefully someone can help.I have a 98 expy 5.4.When I put it in 4 wheel high or low and turn the wheel a little bit the front end seems to be locking up.I changed the fuild in the transfer case,and front dif.The fluid in the front dif was gray.Is it possible that the gears are shot?I have no problem going straight and no grinding noises.Any suggestions on what the problem may be?Thank you in advance.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Are you trying this on dry pavement? What do you mean by "locking up"? the wheels? the steering?

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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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The wheels seem to be locking up.I tried it on dry pavement,but just in front of my house,not driving on the road.I put it on a lift and turned the wheels,the front passenger side spins but the drivers side is stopped until I give it gas then it will spin.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Sounds like your system is normal.

First, on dry pavement when you turn it will feel like your front tires are scrubbing and jerking, because they are. the front and rear axles HAVE to turn at the same rate when it's in 4wd, but because the front wheels are turned and the rears are not, they track different circles and therefor travel different distances. So the "locking" you're feeling is driveline bind, which is alleviated by the front wheels "skidding" to relieve the tension. It's normal, however you should not really use 4wd on dry pavement as it puts horrible strain on the driveline and can end up with broken u-joints or worse. Short distances are ok, but try to limit it as much as possible and keep the speed low.

Now, about only one wheel turning when it's on the lift. That also is normal, because you have an open (i.e. not locked or limited slip) differential in the front. Because of friction caused by the brakes, wheel bearings, etc. when you are idling, there is only enough power to turn one wheel, so it picks the one with the least resistance. When you step on the gas a little there is enough power to overcome that friction and both wheels will spin.

So, I'd say so far your system is fine.

When you said the oil in the front diff was grey, did you mean it had a milky color, or was it just sort of a metal color? If it's a metal color, then it's normal. The gears in the front end (and rear for that matter) produce fine shavings of metal that gets suspended in the oil (which is the reason why you need to change it) and turns the oil a metalic color. If you look close enough at the oil you should be able to see the tiny metal particles.

If the oil was a milky color, then odds are it was contaminated with water. Did it also have a frothy consistency? If that is the case, then you might have worn out some of the bearings in there, and even potentially the gears themselves, but it would take a fair amount of time to do that. If you suspect that is the case, I would run it with the fresh fluid you just put in for a little bit, then change it and check the consistency of the used oil and see what it's like. If you're still having problems or doubts at that point then take it to a rear-end specialist and see what they think.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Thank you very much for your input.The front differential fluid was a metallic color.I changed it,so I'll run with this for a little while and then dump it.
I also heard from a friend about the transfer case clutches binding.Is this true with the torque on demand?I also changed that fluid.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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If you put the truck into 4hi or 4lo the TOD is out of the picture as the front and rear driveshafts are directly connected.

As far as your original question, thats normal. Only use 4wd (not a4wd) in low traction situations or you risk breaking parts for the torque bind.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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The clutches in the rear differential have been known to bind, haven't heard that about transfer case.
 
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