this guy at work is really ticking me off, hes always bragging about his newer chevy durashi, oh i meant duramax, its a reg cab, probably 4.10s, auto 4x4, well, i challenged him to a tug of war, my good old 1991 F.150 reg cab, 4x4 4.9 C6, i think 3.55s, im thinking, put a ton or so farthest up front in the bed as i can, put limo tint in the cap windows, im not worrying about squatting cause its got a 3/4ton rear suspension with helpers, Hes never competed in truck tug of war, i have done it for a couple of years at truck events, so i think i got the knowledge on how to drive the truck then he does.
tell me what you think

 

I think you better quit while you're ahead. Before you break something.

You're comparing apples to oranges. Your 300 cranks out maybe half the torque the Duramax's do. Sorry but he will pull you all over town.

Here's a tip. Instead of getting angry at him and challenging him to something that will tear up your equipment, remind him that at least your truck's engine isn't Japanese designed with Aluminum heads.

If you really want to win, wait until the new Ford's come out. That F-450 Pickup can tow 24,000 lbs and haul 6000 lbs in the bed. That third membered rear end and completely redesigned frame will definately hold up to his "slightly improved" 1500 frame.

I could go on...

 

I wouldn't recomend doing it, but I have seen it done where a smaller truck with half the engine the other guy has beats him.

It's 50% power 50% knowledge and skill.

Some guy with a 289 in his F-150 challenged a 1500 sliverado with a 350 to a pull.

The guy with the 289 dropped it into 4Lo and the chevy guy was in 2WD and that F-150 kept back the chevy and pulled him back a few feet.

Needless to say, the F-150s diff was worthless after that and he lost the differential on a hill the next weekend.

 

Aircruiser brought up a good point. You didn't indicate whether or not you have an open differential or a limited slip.

If you have an open differential, prepare to fork out $225 for new spider and side gears, bearings and a pinion shaft. Doing burnouts and what not in a truck with an open differential is straight up hell on the spider gears. With a limited slip differential, or a Posi rear end, the gears all work together and theres minimal usage of the spider gears. With an open differential, those spider gears are turning and turning like no other, and will wear out quicker than you could shake a stick at them.

Needless to say, the limited slip rear end will take less of a beating, but it'd still be pointless to hook up anyways.

 

yeah, or you could get one of the F650 Himarc conversions (for a big chunk of $$$) with the Caterpillar C7 and tow his sorry (insert word) all the way to the moon

 

Take this advise and run with it.

IMO ( your mileage may vary ) just congradulate him on his new purchase. Tell him he made a great choice and shake his hand.

All that knowing that when he goes to get that Jap trap repaired ( which he will, those builds are now reaching the 1 million mile mark and the wear is starting to show ) he'll be crying the blues. Which you can again shake his hand and congradulate him on his purchase.

IMO, of course.

 

do yourself a favor and walk away from this one. you will get the last laugh when his duraturd is sitting in the shop. the inline 6 is a damn good engine, i'll gurantee ya it'll pull a v8 just not a diesel one.

someone correct me if im wrong but isnt the duramax engine made by isuzu? that sould give you some firepower against him.

 

Co-designed by Isuzu before 2001...

 

Hooking up like that is pointless. Yeah, I'd bet you could win, even though he's got more than twice your torque. Just disconnect your brakelights first (that way he won't see them) so that you can hit your brakes and let him start spinning his tires, then 2-foot it to start pulling him backward while he's got zero traction.

Jason

 

ah yes, chevy guys and duramaxs. I've pulled a so many of them with my dads trucks(95 F250 7.3 Stroker 345,000 miles and his 03 F350 6.0). They are all talk but once you hook em up they get all nervous and try to back out. But like its been said i would back outta this one, not saying its not possible for you to win, you are hooking up with a chevy, it might break down on the spot, but for the sake of breaking something on your truck, its not worth it. I know ive messed lost rear ends and trannys pulling Chevys and Dodges around in my 87 302, but its not worth it even if you win. You'll get the last laugh when you drive by the garage and you see his truck in their getting serviced.

 

pound for pound, the ford could woop its @$$
but look at the weight that the chev has behind it, It would be like trying to pull a brick wall
Genral
Mound of
Cr@p

 

Tug-of-Wars can be a lot of fun, though you have to expect to break parts and have some basic understanding as to how to gain an advantage. For many years up until about 5 years ago several friends and I hosted a huge grilling party, which the evening's big event was a tug-of-war. All entrants signed up during the day, and we randomly put together an order, and whoever won a match got to back up against the next competitor. Much like how pay-per-game pool tables work in bars. Play until you lose.

My rig was an 81 crewcab, with 48" tires, with ridiculous amounts of lift. THAT by itself was my advantage, and why I won most of the time. Crewcabs are heavier than even diesel regular cabs, and the amount of lift I had meant that I was pulling the chain UP as well as away. Even 4wd diesel pickups struggled to pull the chain while I was hitched... I'd stand on the brakes while they yanked, and as I'd feel my suspension compress in the back, then relax slightly, I'd punch it and pull them at that point, in 3rd gear in 4x4 low.

In the later years we did this we created two classes... full size pickups, and "other". We had quite a few rangers, bronco II's, and even a dually station wagon show up and due to size, weight, height they weren't having as much fun as those of us with heavy, over-lifted rigs. So we had two winners each year.

Unfortunately, my friends and I got really sick of it, mostly because of the poor sportsmanship a few guys would exhibit. There were no rules per se, other than how we operated the tug-of-wars (pairing, starts/stops, etc). The only mechanical requirement to the trucks were that you had a pintle hitch, and that whatever the pintle hitch was bolted to was welded to the frame, and the pintle hitch was bolted on with grade eight bolts. Other requirements were the driver's window was down 100% of the time while hitching, while tugging, and while leaving the large rutted area where the tug of wars occured. We only disqualified people if they didn't shut down when told to, or yanked early than when the flags were waved to start.

But the whining of a select few really wore us down. Was supposed to be a bunch of guys, with interesting trucks, eating steak, chicken, pulled pork while drinking beverages of choice, having some fun. There was no prize for winning other than you can say you won and you are guarrenteed to be in the first match next year if you show up. Kinda "break the winner" mentality.

Anyway, having co-hosted such events like this for almost a decade, I have to tell you that Ford, Chevy, Dodge really made little difference as far as winners. What mattered most was driver skill, how much higher your hitch was as compared to your competitor, and if your tires could bite into the wet clayish mud at all.

Even the dually station wagon (which was a 70's pontiac or chevy, I don't remember) was really competitive until hitched with over-lifted trucks like mine.