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Oct 31, 2006 | 08:40 AM

Eric C.

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Data Needed

Ok boys and girls, the security goods at the nuclear power plant I'm working at are requiring me to provide them with the weights out of the owners manual befor I can get a vehicle pass for the BII. Any one have an original manual and a scanner they can use to send it to me?

Nov 3, 2006 | 02:11 PM

Eric C.

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Hello, can anyone help?? This is a long walk for an old man as they are keeping me out of the plant without this info.

Nov 3, 2006 | 03:59 PM

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Here is the data for a 1990, just make it whatever year you choose. This came from Ford's Sales Data manual. I do not know why you can not use the GVWR on the door decal.

Nov 6, 2006 | 06:33 AM

Eric C.

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Because they are lazy and want to know the curb weight so they can scale you in and out to see if you left something or picked up something that you shouldn't have .

Nov 6, 2006 | 12:27 PM

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Sorry, still does not make sense. If scaled with 3 gallons of gas left, then come in the next day with it full (20 more), you add 126 pounds to your vehicle. 126 pounds of high explosive could put a good sized dent into something especially if exploded underground.

Methods and the need for factory curb weight do not make sense. Anyone bent on terror could easily gut a vehicle of 300+ pounds (replace steel wheels with aluminum, remove the A/C compressor, etc.) and make up for the difference in explosives.

The only 1/2 way reliable method is to weigh the front and rear axles, then the whole vehicle. Then inspect the vehicle closely including visual probes into the engine block, transmission, transfer case, and empty gas tank. Then fill the gas tank and then weight the vehicle again.

Then on each next weigh-in to weigh both the front and rear axles and then the whole vehicle. Otherwise using factory published curb weights is pretty useless imho. It just does not make sense.

Nov 6, 2006 | 12:35 PM

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Did you get the info that you needed, I have an '86 owners manual but my scanner is not hooked up. If your still needing that info then I can get working on it.

John

P.S. I agree security procedures are preety lame when it comes to keeping real threats out, they just cause extra red tape and headaches for the rest of us.

Nov 6, 2006 | 01:57 PM

Eric C.

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They want the pages out of the owners manual or from the dealers documentation as they built it. They think that if you get a weight from the scales that it is going to be modified for what you want to carry in/out. It's the old cold war paranoia from Admiral Rickover, the founding father of the Navy and Civilian nuclear power in the US. What can I say the last time I saw this strictly stuborness was while I was in the NAVY and was part of the reason I don't miss it at all. I'm about ready to give up but if you have an owners manual and can scan the pages I would be greatly appreciative. If it's going to be a lot of trouble just forget it and I'll walk, the exercise will do me good.