need diesel engine opinions
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need diesel engine opinions
i have pretty much decided on doing a diesel swap into my 01 and getting rid of the v10 and i know that it is a lot of work but oh well
my question is which motor do you guys feel is more reliable and puts out the most bang for the buck
1. 5.9l 12v cummins, i have been told this one would be the easiest
2. 7.3l powerstroke, this is the way i am leaning
3. 6.0l powerstroke
4. cat engine from f650, not sure what the displacement is
5. 5.9l 24v cummins
6. 6.6l duramax
what i have planned on doing is to buy a donor vehicle, rollover or what everi can find, rebuild the motor and do all the mods to the internal before i ever put it in the truck, that way i would have wiring harness, ecm, everything i would needto swap it over
let me know what yall think
my question is which motor do you guys feel is more reliable and puts out the most bang for the buck
1. 5.9l 12v cummins, i have been told this one would be the easiest
2. 7.3l powerstroke, this is the way i am leaning
3. 6.0l powerstroke
4. cat engine from f650, not sure what the displacement is
5. 5.9l 24v cummins
6. 6.6l duramax
what i have planned on doing is to buy a donor vehicle, rollover or what everi can find, rebuild the motor and do all the mods to the internal before i ever put it in the truck, that way i would have wiring harness, ecm, everything i would needto swap it over
let me know what yall think
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As long as you can choose what to swap I would rule out choice 3 & 6 because of the complexity and choice 4 becuase its too big and heavy.
Choice 2 & 3 would come closest to a bolt in but the electronics may be a challenge.
Probably kits available for the 12 valve Cummins and its size, weight and lack of electronics would make it enticing and if done right the truck should easily be saleable. If you have the means of getting rid of the carcass, used school buses can be a low cost source for a B series Cummins.
Choice 2 & 3 would come closest to a bolt in but the electronics may be a challenge.
Probably kits available for the 12 valve Cummins and its size, weight and lack of electronics would make it enticing and if done right the truck should easily be saleable. If you have the means of getting rid of the carcass, used school buses can be a low cost source for a B series Cummins.
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It would be cheaper and easier to swap in a 12v Cummins, and also more bang for the buck to modify it. Aftermarket for the Cummins is bigger than the Powerstroke, and easier on the wallet too.
You wanted more bang for the buck, so the 12v Cummins will do that for you. As far as reliability, both the Cummins and the Powerstroke are very reliable, up to the point of your installation skills.
You wanted more bang for the buck, so the 12v Cummins will do that for you. As far as reliability, both the Cummins and the Powerstroke are very reliable, up to the point of your installation skills.
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Originally Posted by nevrenufhp
You could replace the #6 with a DT466. It's heavy like the Cat C7, but it all depends on the intended use. The "wow" factor would be way up there!
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3 and 4 are out of the question, and 6 would be a PITA, but it has been done already.
the other 3 options are much more realistic.
the other 3 options are much more realistic.
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thanks guys, i am going to find me a donor 7.3 truck and swap it in after i do some mods to it
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#4 is the C7 Cat which is 7.2L/440 cu. in. This is an excellent powerplant- I have one in my 40' motorhome.
I believe the F-650 runs it in a fairly low power configuration- 300hp with 860 lbs./ft. torque, which would destroy your transmission, driveshaft, and rear end in short order. Plus, as I recall one of the Big 3 experimented with putting this engine in a 1-ton pickup but couldn't do it economically due to its weight and its effect on front end components.
This is the least preferable of your choices due to cost, size, and complexity, not to mention it lends new meaning to the term "overkill."
I'd go with #2- it's easier and more than durable enough for anything you'll ever use a pickup truck for.
I believe the F-650 runs it in a fairly low power configuration- 300hp with 860 lbs./ft. torque, which would destroy your transmission, driveshaft, and rear end in short order. Plus, as I recall one of the Big 3 experimented with putting this engine in a 1-ton pickup but couldn't do it economically due to its weight and its effect on front end components.
This is the least preferable of your choices due to cost, size, and complexity, not to mention it lends new meaning to the term "overkill."
I'd go with #2- it's easier and more than durable enough for anything you'll ever use a pickup truck for.
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Hello Troll.
I'd go with the Cummins. No personal experience, just off hand knowledge.
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I've seen a 466 in a pickup - it had a dog house in the cab like an Econoline van. I've also seen a Cummins C series in an F250 with a RoadRanger 9 speed on it. Cool? Yes. Practical? Wel...
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Keep in mind gentlmen, if you are considering doing a transplant that you should find a diesel motor that is at least the same year or newer and has to have all the emission crap that was originally designed with. To be legal that is, each state is different, but keep to that rule of thumb and you'll be alright
Johan