engine decision
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To stay flat or not to stay flat. It's coming resurrection time for the Indicator, my 1951 F3. The 239 was magnafluxed and shows NO CRACKS, so perhaps i should put it on an engine stand. It still has a 3 speed spour gear tranny from when I last did a big number on it in '82. Now I'm thinking it might be time to put in a 351 or 302 with a more modern tranny. Or should I restructure staying 99% stock. I don't even know how difficult the conversion would be, or expensive. Or revesible back to the flathead mill. Somebody persuade me. I know I want to keep the Timken rear end (I have two, thanks to the '49), the 17" split wheels, etc. The other consideration is going 12 Volt. I am still 6 Volt in the Indicator. I've had this truck since 1979, and want to do right by it, though money is definitely an object. I'm uninterested in a Chevy 350 for my Ford, as I am uninterested in a Chevy 350 for my ancient Jaguar. No need for pro cross-breed people to weigh in. But other Ford engine/tranny conversions? As I said, somebody persuade me.
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Rebuild the flattie and install a modern transmission behind it! You can get adaptors to use a T-5 5 speed or an automatic. Then you will have the best of both worlds. The T-5 suggestion could be a problem if you still use it as a F3.
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It all depends on what you want to do with the truck. Is it a resto project? A custom project? Or the in between resto-custom project?
I suggest a newer modern engine, a 351 windsor would be great, and an overdrive tranny either auto or manual. Good luck.
I suggest a newer modern engine, a 351 windsor would be great, and an overdrive tranny either auto or manual. Good luck.
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As already asked, what do you intend to use it for?
If its something to be worked then Id go for a 429/460 with C6 or OD truck tranny from the 80's. But you should change the rear to a more road friendly ratio 9"
If you want something different then consider a 317/341/368 Lincoln or a 332 truck engine. The 317 (often swapped with the 341/368) was used in F7/8 52-3 and the 332 came out in 54.
The 351W is a good all around choice.
Save the flatty for a lighter project.
If its something to be worked then Id go for a 429/460 with C6 or OD truck tranny from the 80's. But you should change the rear to a more road friendly ratio 9"
If you want something different then consider a 317/341/368 Lincoln or a 332 truck engine. The 317 (often swapped with the 341/368) was used in F7/8 52-3 and the 332 came out in 54.
The 351W is a good all around choice.
Save the flatty for a lighter project.
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Ok- You guys are definitely beyond me in knowledge and expertise. It won't be used as hard as it was 20 years ago, any more than I am. Still, I like the huge Timken rearend, and don't mind lower speeds on the highway, to know I can put weight on it and not worry. Even firewood adds up when it's filling the big box and it's green hickory. So if I stay with the 239, torquey beast that it is, are the choices in tranny good? Are there kits out there? I mean with minor driveshaft modifications, and ideally no irreversible frame mounting mods. I don't mind a manual gearbox, and god knows anything will be smoother than a spur gear granny +2 stick gearbox. My old lady wouldn't mind going auto, though. That's of secondary concern, candidly.
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Indicator, with my 52 F-3 I personally choose to go with a 79 400M and a C-6 Auto. My main reason for going with the more modern driveline is that fact that I had no driveline when I got my truck and I had the 79 parts sitting in my garage from my other toy. To fit the setup in my frame I had to do a great deal of "removal" of stock cross members and mounts and fabrication of new mounts for both the engine, tranny, and the power brake booster, so I doubt what I'm doing will be reversible, but in my case I don't mind. To also make my project more irreversible I have decided to make my F-3 into an extended cab (hey I wanna fit in with all the new trucks out there.. ok so I wanna turn a few heads 
). Anyways, good luck with your project either road you choose.
Jon
). Anyways, good luck with your project either road you choose.Jon
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