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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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What kind or weight or oil do you use?

Wonder if the oil is too thick and not flowing well, if this motor disengages or limits the amount of "HP/Boost" as not to overload the injectors??? Just trying to think outside the box for you on this one? Could the EGR valve be stuck open and/or the turbo vanes sticking and not building boost???
15W40, this happened winter and summer. EGR might have been stuck, it isn't anymore, but hasn't made a difference (it's unplugged now) turbo's new as of July. Didn't make any difference either.

Thanks for the suggestions. After the 4 new injectors, it felt like there was a brand new engine in this truck. It hadn't run that good for a long, long time. Within a month to a month and a half, it started losing the power when cold again. It was at the dealer for at least 2 weeks with them checking everything, all injectors were within specs, but the turbo was replaced.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Just for my personal information catalog--what kind of oil are you using??? And I'm not going to flame you I just want to keep a record.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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hey guys fyi!!!! there is a new reprogram out to help cold issues. it will cycle the injectors when the truck is shut off to drain all the oil off causing the injector to "stick" cold. also it tells the computer to fire the injector like it is warmer than it really is. it is a new tsb and all the dealers should be able to do it by now.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BowTieHatr
hey guys fyi!!!! there is a new reprogram out to help cold issues. it will cycle the injectors when the truck is shut off to drain all the oil off causing the injector to "stick" cold. also it tells the computer to fire the injector like it is warmer than it really is. it is a new tsb and all the dealers should be able to do it by now.
What is the TSB number and can someone post it?

What model year trucks does it cover?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
What is the TSB number and can someone post it?

What model year trucks does it cover?
Yeah, what he said.

Gee, another TSB to help the programming? I love being Beta testers for companies--NOT.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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it is 06-22- 03. it covers ALL the 6.0s
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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Thanks BTH, I'll probably wait a month, then my dealer might know about it.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:19 AM
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they should know now. they had a info broadcast on it last few days.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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My 06' F-350 PSD had an issue while plowing, early this yr,,while only shifting into reverse,, and the truck had been running for hours so it is warmed up,,it was what I would call "Dead pedal" would not move,,then when it started to move (in reverse), the truck would shudder like the tranny slipping. Now this was rather odd, of course it was after lifting the plow, and putting into reverse, did this aprox every 20 to 30 shifts into reverse, but the truck has been fine since winter 05'/06',if it does it plowing 06'/07' truck is going to the dealer.

Any Ideas Bowtiehater,,Vloney,,anybody, ?? so I have some info for them,,thanks,,,Mark
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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Sounds to me like you have the infamous snap ring about to let loose and blow a hole in the side of your tranny case syndrome. But then again, your truck doesn't fit into the proper date ranges. Oops wait a minute, neither did my '04 and it has blown 2 snap rings and it did not have the upgraded planetary set. The second time it had the 'upgraded' snap ring and still did it.

To be fair, there are a lot of solenoids that can become plugged by crap going through the system. But, having the history that I do with the TorqShifts I would ask nicely that they take the tranny apart and fix the snap ring before it does let loose in a storm. If that doesn't work, I'd demand that they take it apart and inspect it. IF that doesn't work, park it against a large tree and put it in drive until the tranny grenades and they have to take it apart under warranty. (I know this last statement won't go over well with some, but if Ford is going to a-holes about warranty work, we need to be a-holes about getting them to fix things that aren't right, and the snap ring is not right.)
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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I have read where this new flash cycles the injector and injector oil in order to clear out the oil so it will start easier the next time? On another site they posted that one will hear a "buzz" after shutdown which is the ijectors cycling themselves clean of oil as not to "gel" in the injector?

Does that mean that when started, there is no oil for a brief second in the injector and if the oil in the pan is cold and think that the injector will be starved for oil or run poorly until the oil in the high-pressure system gets up to speed?

Just curious to learn more about how and why and potential problems of this new flash (as I see it as a non-tech person).

Does using synthetic oil (5W-40) make for easier starts and easier injector performance in cold weather? Why mess with a flash and "dry injector start" if a synthetic oil may be the answer (just thinking outside the box here)?

Would like to here from our resident diesel mechanics on all available info regarding this new flash and the pros and cons????
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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the thing is that at 50 degrees you can have a problem. the same climates that can have a 50 degree night could have a 90 degree day and with heavy towing you could have a issue arise. thats why ford suggests no lower than 10w40 but that is cold weather climates only. what the cycling does is cleans out the residual oil left in the spool area of the injector. it will not hurt them and as soon as you spin the engine over high pressure oil hits them almost instantly. so no dry injector start issue. the only con i can think of is my pocket will shrink because of less work for me. it helps cold starts. i saw the proof on the broadcast and i feel like this is a good thing.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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UPDATE:

Talked to dealer, they have had several complaints like mine, they don't have a clue, Ford has been brought in on some of those cases, Ford dosn't have a clue. They are willing to look at it, but shed very little optimism in finding anything. (They actually believe any inspection on their part would be a waste of time)





My truck, when it did this was HOT. I had just driven 60 miles, the last ten climbing about 4000 feet, and bucking snow. The truck was Off for about 10 minutes on a very sunnny day in 50-60 degree temps. It did not have time to even begin to cool off. The snow was only 6-8" deep, and wet, and not getting anywhere near the tranny or underbelly of this truck. I will acknowledge that at other times when this truck has acted up, It may have been cooler. Other times, while parking trailer after a long tow, I know truck is HOT, It still acts up.

When I said it did nothing, It was doing nothing. I hadn't moved even a fraction of an inch. The engine slowly builds rpm from idle up to approx. 1400, not sure of exact numbers, because about then the truck starts to move, and depending on situation, will literally launch itself, or as in the case this past weekend, it gradually started to move and built power until I let off the pedal.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BowTieHatr
the thing is that at 50 degrees you can have a problem. the same climates that can have a 50 degree night could have a 90 degree day and with heavy towing you could have a issue arise. thats why ford suggests no lower than 10w40 but that is cold weather climates only. what the cycling does is cleans out the residual oil left in the spool area of the injector. it will not hurt them and as soon as you spin the engine over high pressure oil hits them almost instantly. so no dry injector start issue. the only con i can think of is my pocket will shrink because of less work for me. it helps cold starts. i saw the proof on the broadcast and i feel like this is a good thing.
BowTieHatr, by cycling the injectors, is it also purging the left-over fuel in them? If so, I would worry about raw fuel sitting on top of the pistons, leaking down into the oil. And if that's the case, wouldn't it also cause too much fuel to be in the combustion chamber on a quick re-start, such as running into a convienence store for a drink?

Thanks for all the input you, VLONEY, and the others provide for us.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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no because the area where the fuel is let in needs at least 500 psi of oil pressure to squirt the fuel in.
 
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