Turbo Anyone?
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Originally Posted by SageMoonblade
I dont know much about these engines..... if the internals are cast they would have to keep the boost at around 7 or less.... however I know you can get forged pistons and rods for them and the crank is already forged so 15 to 20 psi of boost isnt really out of the question. My 3.0 dodge engine with twin turbos puts out 320hp factory stock.
Tony
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Originally Posted by Tony G
Pistons are hypereutectic. Don't know anything about the rods though. Good to know that the crank is forged.
Tony
Tony
I run 10.5 psi in my 5.4, non-PI motor. And I tow a lot.
I would imagine the V10 could handle similar pressures.
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well I assume it depends on the owner, but what are you looking to do? Twin? Single? Again, depends on the owner, I myself would like a single turbo pushing like 10-12 pounds around 2 k or so on the rpm scale.... I figure that from this engine full boost would be around 2.8-3 k, rpm wise + what kind of intercooler etc... I have a stock srt-4 intercooler sitting at my house, I will look to see how good that will mount on the front and go from there-
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Initially I was thinking a Banks IC would do the trick, but I think it may be wxcessive for our applications. We aren't going to see 30psi with these motors like you do on a diesel.
Our internals, to an extent, are interchangable with the 5.4L mod motor from what I've read. If this is the case, everything, except for the crank can be pulled from the aftermarket Mustang market for much cheaper than "V10 Truck" parts would be. Some work on the heads while the manifolds are off would be great, or maybe pull the heads and clean them up real nice. Cams would be ideal. You can make a lot of tq and changethe tq curve by playing with cams, but I don't think there is a market for them.
A sheetmetal intake would greatly compliment a turbo application, and you could also modify injector placement of greater efficiency. Technically you could fit a big single, or smaller twins under the hood, and have room to spare. We are talking SDs here, not civics... we have ground clearance... use it. With the twins you can think of it like an I5... and you don't need a large turbo at all for an I5. The smaller you keep it the less you see lag. Lag would be bad for us (for those of us looking for more low end power) because you don't want to be high in the revs to make big tq numbers. if we were building drag trucks, then a peaky high HP graph would do the trick. TQ just off of idle would be great, would feel like a finely tuned diesel, without the diesel woes.
I've seen a handful of successful STS kits on cars, none on trucks, but I don't think that would be an issue. There is a lot of room under an SD. Basically the STS "kits" are turbos with pipes. You could piece together a much more custom (to SD) kit for much less.
None of any of that matters unless you have power goals in mind, power range, and or needs/concerns about the kit.
Our internals, to an extent, are interchangable with the 5.4L mod motor from what I've read. If this is the case, everything, except for the crank can be pulled from the aftermarket Mustang market for much cheaper than "V10 Truck" parts would be. Some work on the heads while the manifolds are off would be great, or maybe pull the heads and clean them up real nice. Cams would be ideal. You can make a lot of tq and changethe tq curve by playing with cams, but I don't think there is a market for them.
A sheetmetal intake would greatly compliment a turbo application, and you could also modify injector placement of greater efficiency. Technically you could fit a big single, or smaller twins under the hood, and have room to spare. We are talking SDs here, not civics... we have ground clearance... use it. With the twins you can think of it like an I5... and you don't need a large turbo at all for an I5. The smaller you keep it the less you see lag. Lag would be bad for us (for those of us looking for more low end power) because you don't want to be high in the revs to make big tq numbers. if we were building drag trucks, then a peaky high HP graph would do the trick. TQ just off of idle would be great, would feel like a finely tuned diesel, without the diesel woes.
I've seen a handful of successful STS kits on cars, none on trucks, but I don't think that would be an issue. There is a lot of room under an SD. Basically the STS "kits" are turbos with pipes. You could piece together a much more custom (to SD) kit for much less.
None of any of that matters unless you have power goals in mind, power range, and or needs/concerns about the kit.
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