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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Surging/bucking 5.4L

Hello folks,

Got a 2000 E150 5.4L w/ 76k on the clock and the engine started to buck a few days ago. I originally thought it might have been the Ujoints but tonight the Check Engine light came on. Seems the Van has lost a bit of power. I tried keeping it in park with the brake light on and it seems to keep bucking/surging.

Any thoughts, plugs, wiring, fuel pump, ??
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Sounds like an IAC motor problem. Is it only doing it at idle or all through the rpm range.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Sounds like it could be missing, check the codes and see if it points to one cylinder.
Could have a bad coil or coil boot.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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Enine bucks in drive and in idle, what is the IAC?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Took her for a ride on the highway this morning, seems like it is really noticable when giving it some gas, seems to have no power !
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Time to do the basic, cheap stuff. Clean the MAF/IAC/Throttle body, change the air filter, change the fuel filter, and have the codes read. The lack of power may be from "limp home mode", but if you haven't done the other yet, might as well eliminate them.

When it surges and skips, do you smell raw fuel?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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You're missing on one cylinder, betcha a dollar. Have it scanned at your local parts store and you should get a P30X code if I'm right. The "X" will be which cylinder is missing.

FYI, the IAC = Idle air control valve. Good guess if it won't idle and the engine keeps dying, but this sounds completely different.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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Took her to Napa and I have a cylinder #1 missing, biting the bullet today to take her to the dealer for a plug and boot change, I was planning on doing this anyway and will send me back about $348.00. Anything else I should have them do while there in there ?

Thanks for all your help.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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Holy crap! $348 is a complete hose for that job! By the way, I don't know how hard it is to access the #1 on a van, but in my truck it's super easy access. It's closest to the bumper on the passenger side. Costs me $40 usually to do it myself (I've replaced 2 COP's and changed all 8 spark plugs twice).
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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You're missing on one cylinder, betcha a dollar.
I assume the check's in the mail?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Up here north of Boston all the prices are roughly the same from 5 dealers, this van is a bitch to get to these plugs !!
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Check some independant shops. I've heard of people pricing them for less than $200. $300 is actually average for a dealer doing all 8 plugs.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Check some independant shops. I've heard of people pricing them for less than $200. $300 is actually average for a dealer doing all 8 plugs.
I just had a local shop (national chain) price having all 8 checked at $450 as one is missing. They told me they could not tell which cylinder was missing though - so they had to chedk all 8 . . . is that possible?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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No, see my other reply.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Novice
Holy crap! $348 is a complete hose for that job! By the way, I don't know how hard it is to access the #1 on a van, but in my truck it's super easy access. It's closest to the bumper on the passenger side. Costs me $40 usually to do it myself (I've replaced 2 COP's and changed all 8 spark plugs twice).
Just cost me $64 (including tax) for a cop at one of the least expensive parts places in galveston. Took less than a half hour to change the no. 3 cop, and that was taking my time because this was the first time of doing anything to the motor.

If it were me, I'ld buy the plugs and cop and do it at home.
 
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