Thus the reason trucks as well as all other personal property continues to be stolen. The risk to the criminals is minimal. (How hard did the cops look for Bearhunters truck) Now if there was a 50/50 chance stealing a truck would get you killed, the number stolen would be minimal. If we re-aplied the laws of the old west, he would have a 100% chance of getting hanged if caught GTA would probably be non-existant.

 

The law is on the criminal's side. Even if you shoot, and it is justified, some ambulance chasing lawyer will file a civil suit against you and your insurance company. Believe it. They will rake you over the coals as long as they can trying to get something, regardless of the circumstances. But a jimmie sure looks a lot like a long knife in the heat of the moment. CCW classes teach you what you need to know about the law, but mine taught me I will probably get sued regardless of fault. I have to hire my own defense, take off from work, etc....etc....etc....But I double dog dare the scumbag to try and hi-jack me. He's gonna regret it for the last few seconds of air he breathes. I like the old west philosophy. One strike and you're dead. No three strikes and rehab. Problem solved, except for the few insane enough to do it anyway. How many banks or liquor stores would be robbed if every employee was required to complete a firearms course, and carry open on the hip? You get the idea. I had to take a trip up to D.C. a couple weeks ago. Felt naked the whole way without my trusty compact .45, because only the bad guys can carry up there. Taught my daughter how to shoot, but she can't even own a firearm there. That worries me. Too many bad guys, not enough of us willing to fight back. Pity.

 

I still don't understand why ford hasn't put an immobilizer-bypass module on their super-duty's, they have them on the focus???????

 

Maybe ford is in on the thefts to help keep production up on all those needing replacements for their stolen trucks. Ha Ha Just had to say it. Ford hasn't said anything about all the thefts and how easy it must be to steal a ford super duty. Must be they don't care as long as it's your name on the ownership not theirs.
Wonder what they are going to do when all the easy steals are gone and there dealerships are the easiest place to get a super duty with a five finger discount. Mine has been looked at twice but the club on the steering wheel has saved it so far. We must start looking at everything around the truck when you get back to it. besides ford is fighting to stay alive as a company why would they worry about those of us who have purchased our super duties if they don't get stolen we won't be buying another one for a few years.

 

Maybe they'll add another incentive for stolen trucks. That oughta keep the bad guys busy for a while.

 

Thats what .357 Magnum's are for. If I find some scumbag breaking into my truck I'll turn his/her head into a fine, pink mist............

Gunner15a

 

Oorah!

 

most of the Ford SD, Dodge and Chevvy diesel thefts are by professionals for overseas sale....hot item in Russia, Middle East and S. America....rich boy toys....target used to be and still is expensive top line imported luxury sports cars....

team spots and stakes out the rig....into trailer and south of the border in less than 24 hrs....on a container ship out of Veracruz in less than a week....latest cash money program by the cartels
you don't want to take on one of their teams....they wipe out families and leave no witnesses

so you want to shoot the neighbor's 15 year old kid for a joyriding theft? revenge is such sweet sorrow

several layers of antitheft alarms and lockouts are the best protection....even a locked garage does not stop the pro's

 

anyone looked into lojack or a gps tracking system they have for employee vehicles now, where you can log onto a website and track your vehicle. even for a monthly fee, if you live in a high risk area, it may be worth getting so you can always find where it is if it's stolen, i guess for the guys who wake up in the morning to find it stolen, it's already too late to track down and find but it still might help. they are hidden somehwere on the truck so maybe it will take a theif a while to find it.

i'm sure the really good theives have some sort of system that scans it right away for a gps or lojack, or at least once they get it to a warehouse.

 

Little late, but I've been on vacation...

The club is less than a speedbump. Hell, most thieves won't even screw around with trying to break the club itself, as the steering wheel is actually the "softer" target. They'll hack saw through it, use bolt cutters on it, etc.


As for the off-topic portion of this conversation, I would say Colorado has got be towards the top of the list for being able to protect you & yours with their "Make My Day" law. It has been getting a bit more controversial lately, as it is over 20yrs old, but I don't forsee it actually going away anytime soon.

 

Last week at the 290 at West rd park and ride lot in Houston some skumbag tried to steal/breakin my 06 PSD F250 XLT CC FX4. Fortunately, all he did was ruin the drivers side door lock.

He must have been interupted or the jimmi jammers made it tougher to pop the
lock and set off my alarm. Anyway my truck survived and I get to enjoy it
longer.

Thought I would pass this along for others in the area.


35w
******Unfortunately, Ford makes the key lock/handle assembly extremely easy to break into. I had a 2000 F-250 that was broken into, and my 2006 that I bought in July got broken into the third day I owned it. Also, I have 4 friends that have the F-250 series with this type of door handle, and all of them have the tell-tale sign of a scum-bag breaking into their trucks.....the key lock popped inward displaying the shape of a large flathead screwdriver.
When you drive around, just look at the driver side door handles of these trucks, and you'll see a good percentage of them have the same broken key-lock. It's just easy as heck to do because inside the mechanism there is a lever that just needs to be rotated which will unlock the door. The screwdriver they use merely breaks and 'ignores' the key lock, and with the torque they apply twisting the screwdriver, they can easily rotate the lever.
**When mine got broken into the second time, I had it. I was pissed if you can imagine. So I took it to the Ford dealership and installed an alarm, AND had them replace the driver side door handle with a BLANK (which looks like the rear door handles that don't have a key hole). The passenger front door on my truck did not have a key hole, just the driver side. IT's not cheap to do, $142 material and labor, but I think it's worth it. If your truck has the keyless remote for the alarm, as well as the keypad on the driver door to open it, you have two options to open the door. If neither of those work, you have to break the glass....the service guy told me that the sliding rear window is the cheapest to replace if you had to break something.
The point is, these losers look around for trucks like ours, then when they see them, they park next to them, a passenger gets out and looks into your truck to see if there is ANYTHING of value visible in your truck. IF there's something they think they can covert to cash, they're going to pop your door lock and get it. Forget the alarm, it does'nt really stop them...WHO looks anyway these days when an alarm goes off?
The lesson I learned is, change the lock to a BLANK (so they move on to an easier vehicle because breaking glass creates a bigger scene), and leave NOTHING visible on your seats, on the floorboard, or anywhere inside the truck that would tempt the idiots.
The first time they broke into my 2000 model, they stole my briefcase.
The second time, when they broke into my 2006, they did it for my 4 year old daughter's school backpack! The joke was on them this time....all the idiots got was a bag with a few pictures she colored for me, a pair of fresh girly panties, and a change of clothes!! Crappy thing for me, was that I had a broken lock that I had to replace.
I suggest everyone change their handles to BLANKS without the key. For the theives, it's all about timing. They want to be in and out of your truck fast, without creating a scene. If you make it difficult for them by screwing up they way they planned on breaking in, they'll move on to a vehicle that's easier to get into. Just don't leave a laptop computer sitting on your seat, or they WILL break the glass for it.
Just my 2 cents,
D

 

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If itis so easy to break into a ford F series why has Ford and for that matter the industry been so slow in fixing the issue? I think that to them it must be part of the risk we take in buying a ford truck. Wonder if maybe we should go after the government to make them do a recall on their worthless locks and make them put in a harder to break into one. Bet that would make them work harder on the locks.
Don't know what I would do if some dirtbag was trying to breakin to my truck and I caught him/her. Most likely would beat the crap of them and then realize what foolish thing that was. As to the large gangs that are into ripping off the vehicles, the last thing they want is media coverage of their actions brings to my leo types to bear on the issue. I do agree that this is most likely a big part of why the vehicles are never found but a chop shop only needs a few hours also to have nothing but parts of your former truck. I wanted a special on them and I think they need only something like an hour or two and your have nothing but parts no truck and the vin number on the dash is long gone. The vehicle manufacturers could make this a bad thing by putting the vin number on all the major parts of the vehicle and they could do it at the right time when it is being built.
Wonder how much fun it would be to lift a vehicle that all the major parts were vin id labeled might not be so much fun for the jerk who buys it to find in on the interpal list of lifted vehicles

 

Friday, 6 OCT 06 El Paso, TX, Cielo Vista Mall, outside Sears, 3rd row from the side entrance, 3rd spot up. Went in at 4pm came out at about 730 pm. Hop into the truck and girfriend says "Dont sit on that". Look in the seat and see the plastic housing of the key/lock assembly in the seat. Tried to put in on and it would not fit. Looked at the plastic, looked at the lock, found bright metal and shavings on the floor. Looks like some fool got in and tried to vise-lock twist the housing. I was even carrying my licensed concealed handgun.

I wished I came out earlier and "met" the person(s) interested in my vehicle.

I will be looking for an alarm/starter kill this weekend.

 

It's still a truck and as much as I love mine, losing it would be a PIA and that's all. We aren't in the Old West anymore, thank God, but you do what you think is right, and so will I. Different Strokes for Different Folks.