Accidentally filled with gasoline......oops!
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From: Cut & Shoot, Texas
The truck was back at work today. The solution? New motor, out of the crate new motor. Not covered under warranty as it was operator error. My buddy got to pay for it. I didn't ask what the bill was as I felt like it was too personal and he isn't saying too much. I think it's a pretty sore subject at their house. No one drives my truck but me, ever, period, no exceptions.
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It's easier for a dealer to say "new engine" other then try the draining and refilling trick..new motor = more money for them..plain and simple.
Years ago the company i worked for leased trucks thru Ryder. At that time i had 24ft yellow truck gas i drove all the time. Well Ryder then went to the Isuzu truck with the Diesel motor. Well one morning on my way home i stopped to fill it up...I was tried..been working all night..well I grabbed the nozzel and stuck it in. Filled it up..then headed home. Well on the way home it didn't sound to healthy so i pulled into a parking lot and shut it off. Looked at the receipt and realized I filled BOTH tanks with 93 octane gasoline.
Called Ryder, they towed the truck back to the shop..drained the gas, changed the filters, laughed at me and sent me on my way home. The truck ran great for years after that. They told me the gas in the diesel was a common thing
Years ago the company i worked for leased trucks thru Ryder. At that time i had 24ft yellow truck gas i drove all the time. Well Ryder then went to the Isuzu truck with the Diesel motor. Well one morning on my way home i stopped to fill it up...I was tried..been working all night..well I grabbed the nozzel and stuck it in. Filled it up..then headed home. Well on the way home it didn't sound to healthy so i pulled into a parking lot and shut it off. Looked at the receipt and realized I filled BOTH tanks with 93 octane gasoline.
Called Ryder, they towed the truck back to the shop..drained the gas, changed the filters, laughed at me and sent me on my way home. The truck ran great for years after that. They told me the gas in the diesel was a common thing
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I think the difference was she didn't drive just down the block and realize what she did but instead got about 15 or 20 miles down the freeway before the truck "made a bad noise" (her description) and then quit. He actually had the truck towed somewhere else first and they did try the drain the gas and change all the filters trick. Didn't work and they referred him straight to the dealer.
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Originally Posted by Help I M Stuck
It's easier for a dealer to say "new engine" other then try the draining and refilling trick..new motor = more money for them..plain and simple.
Years ago the company i worked for leased trucks thru Ryder. At that time i had 24ft yellow truck gas i drove all the time. Well Ryder then went to the Isuzu truck with the Diesel motor. Well one morning on my way home i stopped to fill it up...I was tried..been working all night..well I grabbed the nozzel and stuck it in. Filled it up..then headed home. Well on the way home it didn't sound to healthy so i pulled into a parking lot and shut it off. Looked at the receipt and realized I filled BOTH tanks with 93 octane gasoline. Called Ryder, they towed the truck back to the shop..drained the gas, changed the filters, laughed at me and sent me on my way home. The truck ran great for years after that. They told me the gas in the diesel was a common thing
Years ago the company i worked for leased trucks thru Ryder. At that time i had 24ft yellow truck gas i drove all the time. Well Ryder then went to the Isuzu truck with the Diesel motor. Well one morning on my way home i stopped to fill it up...I was tried..been working all night..well I grabbed the nozzel and stuck it in. Filled it up..then headed home. Well on the way home it didn't sound to healthy so i pulled into a parking lot and shut it off. Looked at the receipt and realized I filled BOTH tanks with 93 octane gasoline.
Called Ryder, they towed the truck back to the shop..drained the gas, changed the filters, laughed at me and sent me on my way home. The truck ran great for years after that. They told me the gas in the diesel was a common thing 
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I'm thinking he got hozed as well.
At 20 miles there would be less than 2 gallons through the filters and pump (and a quart through each injector). And it may have been somewhat mixed (I think the gas would have dropped to the bottom of the tank and have been 'consumed' first -- I'd need to check the specific gravity to be certian).
At 2000 RPM for what, about 20 minutes? (Not sure if the Dodge runs like my Ford did) That'd be about 40,000 engine cycles? 5,000 'gas injection events' per injector?
Gotta be hurt, but not dead. "We have the technology. We can rebuild him."
(pretty sure not better, stronger, faster, though!).
At 20 miles there would be less than 2 gallons through the filters and pump (and a quart through each injector). And it may have been somewhat mixed (I think the gas would have dropped to the bottom of the tank and have been 'consumed' first -- I'd need to check the specific gravity to be certian).
At 2000 RPM for what, about 20 minutes? (Not sure if the Dodge runs like my Ford did) That'd be about 40,000 engine cycles? 5,000 'gas injection events' per injector?
Gotta be hurt, but not dead. "We have the technology. We can rebuild him."
(pretty sure not better, stronger, faster, though!).
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For the record, I run about 2% GASOLINE in our company trucks, all diesel, big and small. It helps the diesel flow better and hasn't hurt a thing. Also, for the record again, Kerosene IS Diesel, just more refined. (#1 grade)
All this being said, in the "real old days" before we had things like engine computers, introducing gasoline to the Diesel in pure unadulterated form was more like suicide, with notable accounts of engines and entire vehicles exploding. Since there were relatively FEW small-engine diesels at the time, it wasn't a common occurance, but it was more widely known in marinas, as many boats used small engine diesels and such mistakes were disastrous.
All this being said, in the "real old days" before we had things like engine computers, introducing gasoline to the Diesel in pure unadulterated form was more like suicide, with notable accounts of engines and entire vehicles exploding. Since there were relatively FEW small-engine diesels at the time, it wasn't a common occurance, but it was more widely known in marinas, as many boats used small engine diesels and such mistakes were disastrous.
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Hosed by a dealer?
I'm with the fireman on this one. The dealer saw big dollar signs on this one. I worked on ambulances for ten years and at least once a month somebody would fill one with gas and run it 'til it quit. We'd tow them back to the shop, drain the tank and fill it with diesel and they'd be back on their merry way. In ten years I never saw one get damaged and by the time I left there most of the 7.3l DIT's had 350k+ on them. However, at the dealership now, one of my coworkers had a 7.3l DIT that started hard, smoked and ran rough. He had replaced all of the injectors, several sensors and was replacing the turbocharger all under warranty when I started working there. I asked him if he'd checked the fuel quality and his reply was that that wasn't the problem. I pulled the fuel cap and stuck my nose down there, sure enough it was full of gasoline. The owner got away with it because the tech had screwed up. But again, the engine was fine.
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Actually (just for the record 
) Kerosene is NOT diesel. Different(although slight) specific gravity, energy content, viscosity, flash point, sulpher content, lubricity, etc.
Here's a great comparison of "distillate" fuels.
One could argue that Kerosene and Diesel are similar. And that person would be essentially right. (Diesel #1 basically IS Kerosene......."Winterized" D2 is Diesel fuel blended with Kerosene).
Ok.......
They are similar enough to be called "The same"!!
Kerosene will absolutely be lacking in lubricity though.......possibly requiring additional lubricant.
Oh by the way, VW allowed a small amount of gasoline to be used as an emergency fuel in their early diesels. They also recommended a small amount of lubricating oil to be mixed in when using pure gasoline as an emergency fuel.
I don't think I'd try it in an HEUI or other unit injector type fuel injection system though...
Cheers,
Rick
) Kerosene is NOT diesel. Different(although slight) specific gravity, energy content, viscosity, flash point, sulpher content, lubricity, etc.Here's a great comparison of "distillate" fuels.
One could argue that Kerosene and Diesel are similar. And that person would be essentially right. (Diesel #1 basically IS Kerosene......."Winterized" D2 is Diesel fuel blended with Kerosene).
Ok.......
They are similar enough to be called "The same"!! Kerosene will absolutely be lacking in lubricity though.......possibly requiring additional lubricant.
Oh by the way, VW allowed a small amount of gasoline to be used as an emergency fuel in their early diesels. They also recommended a small amount of lubricating oil to be mixed in when using pure gasoline as an emergency fuel.
I don't think I'd try it in an HEUI or other unit injector type fuel injection system though...
Cheers,
Rick
Originally Posted by mrfixit64857
For the record, I run about 2% GASOLINE in our company trucks, all diesel, big and small. It helps the diesel flow better and hasn't hurt a thing. Also, for the record again, Kerosene IS Diesel, just more refined. (#1 grade)............................................ .............. diesels at the time, it wasn't a common occurance, but it was more widely known in marinas, as many boats used small engine diesels and such mistakes were disastrous.
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Yeah at least everybodies ok and no ones hurt,[ or did she get a black eye]jk Pride was the only thing hurt and the bank account. Your right it isn't unheard of a gas filled diesel tank exploding, Not quite as common as a gas filled gas tank exploding though!
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Lighten up people, this is some what of a "funny "issue, no need to go into what could have been. Only thing hurt here was some ones pride. Thats it. One persons mistakes make us learn, and laugh, but glad it didn't happen to me. {Wiping the smurk off my face} Sorry if I offended anyone, Or are you his mechanic