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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Air Intake Question

Just bought an AEM Brute Force Intake, Dry Filter (Part#21-8104) for my 05 PSD (believe my truck was mfg in 2/05).
The MAF sensor on the stock (factory) intake is about 1/4" - 1/2" round - thats it, not very big and definitely not an inch square. Very small and round and it presses into the factory plastic intake tube with a rubber grommet that holds it in place.
The AEM intake tube and directions are all indicating a square sensor (looks like about 1" square in the pics) that takes special torx screws for mounting. The opening is considerably larger than the stock one.
Am I missing something? Or is this just a different version of a MAF? Are threre any updates, etc... OR should I return this intake and get a different one! AFE, AirRaid, etc....
Any suggestions or recommendations would be appreciated!
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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I bought an aftermarket air intake as well for my 2005, for some reason they changed the maf sensor as you discribed, I think temporarily. I contacted the mfg of the air intake, they said they were coming out with an adapter. I just sent it back.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Thanks! I appreciate it. Do you know of anyone who makes an aftermarket intake that utilizes the small MAF at this time?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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I put a K&N kit on my 06 and It seems to work fine. I got it off the net very cheap. It installed in about an hour and there was no problems with the MAS fitting. Some guys say the stock filter set up works just as well but I read that after I insalled my kit. They also say AFE is good. Here is a question while were on air intakes. Has anyone else expirenced the turbo fluttering noise when letting off after hard excelleration. I never did untill I installed the K&N kit. It seems to do it when the engine is cold mostly but last night when I pulled at a 4X4 truck pull event when the sled stopped me I let off and the turbo did that same fluttering noise and then truck shut off. Luckily it started right up. May be I should go back to the stock filter set up!?!?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PA 6.0 STROKER
I put a K&N kit on my 06 and It seems to work fine. I got it off the net very cheap. It installed in about an hour and there was no problems with the MAS fitting. Some guys say the stock filter set up works just as well but I read that after I insalled my kit. They also say AFE is good. Here is a question while were on air intakes. Has anyone else expirenced the turbo fluttering noise when letting off after hard excelleration. I never did untill I installed the K&N kit. It seems to do it when the engine is cold mostly but last night when I pulled at a 4X4 truck pull event when the sled stopped me I let off and the turbo did that same fluttering noise and then truck shut off. Luckily it started right up. May be I should go back to the stock filter set up!?!?
PA 6.0 STROKER,

That fluttering you hear when you immediately chop power after excelerating hard is "turbo fart" the built up boost pressure has to go somewhere, and there is no waste gate on a 6.0 so the excess pressure goes back out the intake. The sound is just more pronounced with your aftermarket filter assembly, it will not hurt anything as it is a normal response..


It is your truck and you can do with it as you like, but IMHO the stock filter assembly is a much better choice. It filters the air better and it does not potentiall void parts of your 100k engine warranty.

The increased air flow of the K&N filter or any aftermarket filter is accomplished by decreasing filtration no matter what there slick marketing materials say. And without other modifications to the engine to enhance the performance, the aftermarket filter is not going to make any noticeable rear wheel Hp or Torque increases on a dyno. Also the oiled filters such as K&N etc are hard on the sensors and can prematurely make them fail do to the oil collecting on the sensor.

It is your truck and money, so run what you are happy with, but IMHO the factory Donaldson filter assembly is the way to go.

Hope this helps
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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A friend of mine just pointed out that there is another MAF sensor "Dummy" connection that branches off of the one that is plugged into the factory tube. Looks like Ford also included this plug to be used on the "square" MAF sensor - the one pictured in the installation instructions. Its the same plug on his 06 PSD. I may try to get the square MAF Sensor from Ford and install it on the aftermarket intake - using this other plug. Thereby eliminating the need for the smaller one that the truck currrently uses. Does anyone know if this will work? Im concerned that the truck may not be calibrated for the square MAF Sensor. Or maybe it wont matter since it appears to be wired for it from the factory? Also, the factory airbox is a %$#! to get back together - any suggestions for getting the seals properly aligned?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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The Airaid intake is set up for both types of MAF sensor making for a very easy install.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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X-Hibition, thanks! I may order that one! It was my initial choice before the AEM was suggested. Thanks again!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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http://www.airaid.com/pdf/400-131-1.pdf

Here are the instructions, so easy anyone can do it...

Good luck.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Airaid is also 50 state smog legal. Great warranty. Looks good.

And I am paid nothing by them.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Thanks! You're right, it does look good. And it looks like it is a cold air intake system, unlike the AEM that has an exposed filter element in the engine compartment.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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the airaid is a good choice ,it worked well on my 03 and if you would like to do the zoodad mod it works very well with feeding your 6.0 nice cold air.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks for all the help! Just ordered the AirRaid system! Sending back the AEM.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Blackhat620 thanks for the info. Heres one more. If I go back to the stock air intake will it hurt that I have 4in turbo back exhaust and a edge ez module with 3 power levels up to 60 hp!?!?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PA 6.0 STROKER
Blackhat620 thanks for the info. Heres one more. If I go back to the stock air intake will it hurt that I have 4in turbo back exhaust and a edge ez module with 3 power levels up to 60 hp!?!?
PA 6.0 STROKER,

It will not hurt anything to run the factory air filter with a 4" turbo back exhaust and edge tuner. You have to decide what you want to accomplish, the increased airflow of the aftermarket filter 'Might" add a slight amount of power, but in doing so the filtration is less so there is a higher chance of dirt "dusting" your turbo. But you are already running an aftermarket exhaust and tuner so you are not worried about warranty issuses. It is all a trade off, when you make a hot rod it is going to cost more to maintain and there are usually increased repairs due to premature failures in the motor do to the addition of hot rod parts etc. As the old saying goes if your gonna play, you gotta pay.

Hope this helps
 
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