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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Unhappy ABS problems after new rotors

Yesterday I swapped out the rotors and put in new brake pads on my truck. Since then, when the truck is first started, the ABS seems to kick in on the first brake, then afterwards the ABS light goes on and ABS is unavailable.

My truck - 2001 Ford Ranger supercab XLT, 4 wheel ABS, 287mm rotors. I had previously had run down the brake pads to the metal, which was why I was replacing the rotors.

The rotors and pads are Duralasts that I got at Autozone. The rotors seem identical to the ones I pulled off the truck, and did include the timing wheel for the ABS. When I was changing the rotors, I noticed rusted metal particles on the ABS sensors, which I knocked off with my fingertip.

I've already checked that the wires are plugged in everywhere, as my first hope was that I had simply knocked a wire loose while working down there. I also "rebooted" the computer by unhooking the battery for 15 minutes. I have a Haynes manual, and it doesn't have much information regarding the ABS system.

I've read on the board that you can get the ABS codes read at Autozone or something similar. Where is the plug for that?

Any suggestions on what I should be looking for, or something simple that I've overlooked? Or do I just need to bring it in to a dealer, admit that my mechanic skills are limited, and ask them to fix it?

Henry
 
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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When you installed the new rotors and pads, did you compress the caliper back into its bore w/o opening the bleeder screw to allow the brake fluid to escape? Pushing the brake fluid back to the master cylinder with out opening the bleeder screw can damage the ABS system. As you may have heard brake fluid is hygroscopic (absorbs water) and this can cause the internal metal surfaces to rust. This rust flakes off and tends to settle in low points in the brake system like calipers and wheel cylinders. When you compress the caliper back into its bore w/o opening the bleeder screw this rust can flow through and damage the ABS valving and internal filters. You might try bleeding your brake system and flush out the old fluid and replace it with new fluid fluid. This might fix your ABS problem and it is good to flush your brake system every two years any way. Good luck.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Put the truck up on jack stands, put the key in the on position. Backprobe your abs sensors at the wheel with a digital multi meter set to AC voltage. If they are not showing a classic sine wave they are bad. On top of this, if the rust you pulled off the sensor was part of the face of the sensor you may have opened the air gap too far for the system to see that there is a tone ring at the wheel, which would cause an ABS situation to arise. Also, like stated above you should flush the system.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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I've read on the board that you can get the ABS codes read at Autozone or something similar. Where is the plug for that?
You didn't read that here. AZ and the like CANNOT read 4WABS ABS codes. They require a scan tool that starts at around $1,000, so you won't find them outside dealerships and well-equipped independent shops. You aren't likely to get it done for free anywhere.

The ABS computer cannot be reset like a PCM can be by removing power. There's a different procedure that requires the proper scan tool.

I would not be surprised if you eventually find that the quality of the AZ rotors is the reason for your new fault.

Steve
 
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