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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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00' expedition engine dies when braking

Hey ya'll, I got a question about my 2000 Expedition. I bought it new off the lot and have had no major problems with the car. However these past couple years its developed a nasty, but sporadic habit of dying when braking. There seems to be no cause for it, but a couple times a month ill be driving and when approaching a stoplight/sign it will rough idle for a brief second then die. Ive changed the fuel filter, this seemed to have helped, but it soon started up again. Other times it will suffer a drop in rpm's and then return to normal after a few seconds. It only happens when the speed is low, and your just about stopped, also this effect is worsend by how abrupt the braking is. The harder the stop the faster it will die. Any suggestions would be appreciated, Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 05:01 AM
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I would run codes on it and see what you come up with. It could be a bad Torque Converter Control (TCC) solenoid. Not an uncommon problem on any vehicle.

Just a guess talored to your described scenario.


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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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What about the IAC? Mine did the same thing until I changed it according to other posts I had seen. The original IAC was completely caked up with carbon. Its a pain to get to in back of the engine, on top of the intake. Worked for me.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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My '98 Merc Mountaineer did that from the very beginning but didn't ever throw a code. I took it back half a dozen times or so and the techs couldn't ever pinpoint the problem. I know this doesn't help much, but just a fyi that the problem can be elusive, especially if no codes are present.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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My vote would also be for the IAC. It has been a know problem that once it gets gummed up, the truck will have a problem idling.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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IAC is pretty easy and cheap to swap and troubleshoot...Simple stuff first I guess.


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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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I have the same problem, but it doesnt happen all the time, that happened to me like 4 times. I was told it is the torque converter locking up. This week I am draining the atf from the trans and torque converter and put mobile one in and see what happens.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Had same problemand changed IAC valve and problem solved. I also treated gas with B12 Chemtool in the tank and through the intake line connected to brake booster. This procedure smoothed it right out.
 
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If it was the TCC solenoid then the torque converter would always be locked.
 
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Same problem here, almost exactly. Have replaced IAC. Still does it. Had a Ford mechanic tell me that it is probably the crankshaft position sensor. From what I have read about those acting up, the truck usually does not start, not a low idle, and dying problem. Is there a test for the CPS when the truck is running?
 
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Originally Posted by pray for surf
It only happens when the speed is low, and your just about stopped, also this effect is worsened by how abrupt the braking is. The harder the stop the faster it will die.
The other thing to make a note of is how much fuel you have in your tank when this happens. If it's happening only when the tank is low on fuel then the problem is a broken baffle inside the fuel tank. With a broken baffle the fuel sloshes around more in the tank instead of being kept near the fuel pump pick-up, or in your case, the fuel is moving forward in the tank when braking. The result is the pump sucks air and the engine temporarily starves for fuel.

The baffles are like one-way valves (flaps). They allow fuel to flow towards the pump, but close when fuel tries to flow away from it.
 
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[QUOTE=vze2sgxa;4000872]What about the IAC? Mine did the same thing until I changed it according to other posts I had seen. The original IAC was completely caked up with carbon. Its a pain to get to in back of the engine, on top of the intake. Worked for
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by vze2sgxa
What about the IAC? Mine did the same thing until I changed it according to other posts I had seen. The original IAC was completely caked up with carbon. Its a pain to get to in back of the engine, on top of the intake. Worked for me.
What is the IAC? Idle Air Control?
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 04:49 PM
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What is the IAC? Idle Air Control?
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Yes, plenty of pics on the internet if you need to see one.
 
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