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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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identify this axle....

I *think* I might have find my one ton axle for my F250.. except it might be a 1-1/4 axle..

It is in a late 80s f-superduty truck. It has to be a conversion axle since the f-superduties didn't come factory with 4wd.

it is a 10 lug wheel. I'm pretty sure this is an adapter from 8lug (from what I've read)..

the only question is if it has a 36.5" pad spacing for leafs, and if it is a Dana 60HP or a Dana 70LP. I think it might have 35spline outers because it has selectro hubs (I guess that 35 spline outers would make it a Dana 70).

I know the diff is huge. I am thinking it is a 70..

btw, I couldn't crawl under it due to how it is parked in the salvage yard.

i figure 82F100SWB will know
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Do you have pics?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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no.. if I could get to it, I would have taken some.. (not to mention I would have measured it and what not).
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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well one thing the cover on a D60 and a D70 are the same size same cover so if it looks bigger than a D60 then it's probably not a D70 if you understand what I mean.
but Marmon herrington did a lot of those conversions, and if I recall they used there own axle it's not a dana, They no longer make that axle or conversion or even the kit anymore from what I understand.
It's possible it's someone elses but the best way is to find the tag for the conversion there should be one somewhere on the truck.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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There is a Northwestern Energy truck that runs around here that is an "F-Superduty". I think it's a 92 or 93. It's been converted to 4x4 and has a D70LP Kingpin front axle, NP205, and 460/ZF. Unfortunately, it's not up for auction any time soon....and it has a right-hand drop (diff on pass. side). It's been here in the shop a few times and I've oogled over it for hours.

Cody

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I've had the opportunity to get a good look at one of the 4x4 Kodiak trucks (it was an '06 4500 with a Duramax). D80 front with some HUGE!!!!! C's and u-joints.....divorced t-case, too.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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I didn't get to see the front cover, but the webbing on the pig looked larger than a 60..

it was driver's side drop, and looked to have used the regular spring mount on a f250/350.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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I've seen a handfull of those trucks, most were LP D70, but, 2 just had a F350 D60 with a 10 lug adaptor. One of the ones with the D60, I'm pretty sure wasn't a conversion, but a home brew. It had a 1356 bolted on in place of the driveline brake, and no provision for a parking brake.... I never really got a chance to look closer at the other ones, but, i'd imagine they had some sort of a parking brake setup.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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I've seen a handfull of those trucks, most were LP D70, but, 2 just had a F350 D60 with a 10 lug adaptor. One of the ones with the D60, I'm pretty sure wasn't a conversion, but a home brew. It had a 1356 bolted on in place of the driveline brake, and no provision for a parking brake.... I never really got a chance to look closer at the other ones, but, i'd imagine they had some sort of a parking brake setup.
So, you would think the Dana 70 would be about the same dimensions as the F350 60?

I'm going to see if I can go get some pics.. This truck also as one big hydraulic winch on the front (has like 3/4" cable in it!) .....
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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the MM front axle that was common in them was abnout the equivelant to the dana 70
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Where is it or where is the whole truck I have been searching for one of those axles for a long time

You found lot of F-Superduty trucks were bought by utility companies because back in the day there was a demand for a 15,000gvw 4x4 and Ford didn't make it. A regular 1 ton 4x4 cab and chassis wasn't heavy enough for a utility truck. They also Converted Chevy/GMC 3500HDs which is a 15,000lb gvw truck it was the ones with the 19.5 wheels.

I have a feeling that truck may have a custom built dana 70 as that is what Marmon used. A pretty stout front axle especially when Ford only uses a Dana 60 under the current F-450 and F-550 4x4s.

Some conversions were a regular dana 60 out of a F-350 with a custom made adaptor I found a company that would sell me the adaptors.

I wanted to convert a F-Superduty to a 4x4 as I do like the OBS Fords but after doing some number crunching its pretty expensive. It would be easier for me to find a 99 or newer F-450 4x4.

As for the spring spacing it will be the same as a F-350 4x4 as the Front spring width is the same on a 88-97 F-Superduty trucks.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Hate to steal the thread but what would a 1956 Ford 4x4 with the marmom herrington 4x4 conversion have for a front end then. I'm pretty sure it is a dually to cant remember for sure.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Hate to steal the thread but what would a 1956 Ford 4x4 with the marmom herrington 4x4 conversion have for a front end then. I'm pretty sure it is a dually to cant remember for sure.
I'm not 100% sure, but didn't the Marmon Harrington's use Eaton axles? For some reason Napco comes to mind as well, but that could be a chebby brand.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Where is it or where is the whole truck I have been searching for one of those axles for a long time

You found lot of F-Superduty trucks were bought by utility companies because back in the day there was a demand for a 15,000gvw 4x4 and Ford didn't make it. A regular 1 ton 4x4 cab and chassis wasn't heavy enough for a utility truck. They also Converted Chevy/GMC 3500HDs which is a 15,000lb gvw truck it was the ones with the 19.5 wheels.

I have a feeling that truck may have a custom built dana 70 as that is what Marmon used. A pretty stout front axle especially when Ford only uses a Dana 60 under the current F-450 and F-550 4x4s.

Some conversions were a regular dana 60 out of a F-350 with a custom made adaptor I found a company that would sell me the adaptors.

I wanted to convert a F-Superduty to a 4x4 as I do like the OBS Fords but after doing some number crunching its pretty expensive. It would be easier for me to find a 99 or newer F-450 4x4.

As for the spring spacing it will be the same as a F-350 4x4 as the Front spring width is the same on a 88-97 F-Superduty trucks.
Sweet. I guess my search for a one ton front has ended. I'll just have to see if they want $15000 for the front axle. btw, this truck is in Pennsylvania, probably a long drive for you for a rusty old heap.

I'll have to run 40s to have the ground clearance of 36s on a Dana 60, but I think it will be worth it for a super stout front drive train..
 
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Marmon axles were alot lit the eaton axles with a removable carriers and what not (the older 50's conversion used this style of axle, they used huge ring gears but the axles weren't worth the effort) Odds are its a 70 low pinion axle as marmon didn't use there own rearends till you got into the heavier trucks.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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does anyone know what Ford trucks DID have a dana 70?.....because that's what I am looking for to put under my Bronco's Front
 
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