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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Oil filter adapters

Hello,

I have 2 FE's (360 & 390) and they have different oil filter adapters - one has the centerline of the filter horizontal and one have it vertical.

Other than the obvious, what is the difference in these adapters, and is one preferred over the other? I like the vertical one as it makes oil changes easier, but.......

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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One's for the 4x4 trucks (and passenger cars?) and the other is for the 4x2 trucks with the crossmember in the way.

What vehicle do you have?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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On the ones for the pass cars there are two different flavors. The early C0AE that have tiny passages and the later C8AE that have the passages hogged out a bit. You can open the C0AE one's up a bit with a 1/2" drill bit but I like to start with the C8 and open it up a little more and smooth it out with a dremel. I'm not certain how the truck adapters came cast tho...maybe someone knows?? Worth looking into tho. Anyway I like to spend a little time on these and make them nice. And polish the outside to make em purdy. LOL


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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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krewat, So which one is which? I have the horizontal one that I'm sure is O.E. for the F100 with the 352.
I hate it because when you change the oil it just drains out the side of the blasted thing.
Which brings to mind, why did Ford put the drain plug over the top of the front crossmember?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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You're asking me? I'm no expert by far, someone will come along and answer that, I'm sure

I'm just a moderator, that doesn't mean any particular technical skills
 
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Which brings to mind, why did Ford put the drain plug over the top of the front crossmember?
Because most engineers have NO COMMON SENSE! They dont think of things like service when they design cars. You think its bad in older trucks, try newer cars. The oil filter for the wife's Intrepid is a good example. I have to take a punch and poke a couple holes in the bottom or the oil spills all over the crossmember and IN the crossmember. Makes things nice and messy for days while it makes its way out of the framework and all over everything. Oh, and dont get me started about changing the timing belt in my Metro. Let's just say it was a 3 day affair.

Side note. On trucks with the horizontal mount, try a filter relocating kit and add a cooler while your at it, if you want.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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On the trucks with horizontal filters if you drill out the passages and dremel to match them to your already drilled and dremeled block you'll have plenty of oil flow.
On oil changes it's a clean job as the sump drain is in the rear on the bottom of the modified FT pan. While the sumps draining I punch the filter on the top near the end with a automatic center punch. Half hour later add a patch with duct tape, place a few paper towels under the filter then remove, only a couple tea spoons of oil are lost on the towels.

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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You're asking me? I'm no expert by far, someone will come along and answer that, I'm sure

I'm just a moderator, that doesn't mean any particular technical skills
LOL, you started it.. by making a statement....
 
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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I'd rather smack the Engineers..... more fun than drilling holes.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by krewat
One's for the 4x4 trucks (and passenger cars?) and the other is for the 4x2 trucks with the crossmember in the way.


What vehicle do you have?
71 Highboy... it has the vertical mount, but my 390 from a 70 XLT (version unknown) has the horizontal.

Nothing says either of these is factory correct, and that is why I was asking.

Now, is there any reason to use one over the other? I prefer the vertical (seems there would be less drainback and faster oil pressurization) but I may be wrong... My ex-girlfriend always thought I was....

TIA,

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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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The vertical is a car mount, the horizontal is a pickup unit. The later, mid 70's 4x4's used a vertical that tilted the filter forward at about a 45 degree angle. Actually, to me, neither is a clean job changing filters, the vertical, it spills over the whole filter, but the horizontal, tends to drain cleaner, straight down into a catch pan. As for drain plug location? Not much you can do about that. There are two drain locations on FE pickup/car pans , either centered at the rear or at one rear corner.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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My '74 highboy came stock with the vertical filter mount.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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I think the 45 degree one was a 75-76 part. I sold one a couple years back on ebay. All the 2wd trucks I've seen came with the horizontal unit except for one 74 F250, it had the vertical.
 
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On that vertical filter tilted forward 45 degrees are we still talking a FE motor?
If so this would be great as I've never seen one this will allow more room for a sandwich adapter for a pre-oiler as the 7" long filter is close to the inner fender well without sandwich adapter.
Head stuck in sand on 67 to 72 only specially 68-69, aluminum and steel grills pre plastic era.

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Originally Posted by Beemer Nut
On that vertical filter tilted forward 45 degrees are we still talking a FE motor?
If so this would be great as I've never seen one this will allow more room for a sandwich adapter for a pre-oiler as the 7" long filter is close to the inner fender well without sandwich adapter.
Head stuck in sand on 67 to 72 only specially 68-69, aluminum and steel grills pre plastic era.

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Yea, it was an FE adapter. I don't recall the part number though, but it was like a 74-75 part. I sold it on ebay, but it's been so long that they've dropped the auction from my sold list and I've long since flushed the pics.
 
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