Rough Starting and Check Engine Light
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Rough Starting and Check Engine Light
2004 F-250 SuperDuty, super cab, short bed, 6.0L Diesel, 42,300mi, Fx4
Friday i started my truck via the remote car starter while walking towards it. I always start it and let it warm up for a few minutes, i usually only drive it once a week and on weekends, have company van during the week. When the truck turned over it sounded like some threw a hand full of rocks at the hood and then it ran fine, when i got inside i noticed the check engine light was on. I put a friends snap-on scaner and the code turned out to be #2285 Inj Ctrl Pressure Sensor Ckt Low. I cleared the code hoping it to be a fluke, but i started it this morning and the truck ran ruff for a min and then straighten out. This morning was about 60 deg. Then check engine light is on again. Lately when starting the truck after sitting over night it seems to surge, it starts but the rpms seem to rev "surge" two or three times' back when it was at ford under the 36,000 mi warranty they said their was no problem with it but my 2004 F-450 6.0L never did that. Any help would be appreciated.
Friday i started my truck via the remote car starter while walking towards it. I always start it and let it warm up for a few minutes, i usually only drive it once a week and on weekends, have company van during the week. When the truck turned over it sounded like some threw a hand full of rocks at the hood and then it ran fine, when i got inside i noticed the check engine light was on. I put a friends snap-on scaner and the code turned out to be #2285 Inj Ctrl Pressure Sensor Ckt Low. I cleared the code hoping it to be a fluke, but i started it this morning and the truck ran ruff for a min and then straighten out. This morning was about 60 deg. Then check engine light is on again. Lately when starting the truck after sitting over night it seems to surge, it starts but the rpms seem to rev "surge" two or three times' back when it was at ford under the 36,000 mi warranty they said their was no problem with it but my 2004 F-450 6.0L never did that. Any help would be appreciated.
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I have the same problem on my 03" f-350 doing exactly what you described. Managed to buy the Ford manuals to see what service protocol is required to fix problem. Hopefully someone else will chime in before I go through both these gigantic manuals to find the problem
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If you have an early build '04 (which is really still an '03 engine) your ICP sensor has failed. If your friends scanner can look at PIDS, your ICP voltage with the key on, engine off should be no less than .18v on early build '04 and '03 engines.
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There is a strong possibility that you have an injector problem. If they are bleeding off high pressure oil (cut o-ring, broken retainer clip), you can have both low icp and rough running, with no dtc for cyl contribution.
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Thanx for some insight. How hard is it to replace the ICP sensor. Do you need any special tools? Vloney if it is an injector problem would'nt it always be rough idling. Basically mine starts in the morning at start -up, idles rough and then smooths out. more noticeable at lower temps in the morning. I live in the northeast and the climate is changing and I'm afraid that my truck will not start if gets any colder. Need to pin point problem and fix right away. No more confidence in the dealers in my area. A shame I can't take it to the International dealer 10 minutes from my house
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I would call the IH dealership and just ask if they would honor the warranty since it is the IH warranty on the engine.
If they sell the IH school buses then they have the same engine in the 300 model
If they sell the IH school buses then they have the same engine in the 300 model
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Problem with that is my truck has 107K on it. They said the more you drove it the better it performed. That was true until I took to the dealer for mormal maintainence at 40K they reflashed the computer and it went down hill from that point. Had smoking problems from very beginning but never hindered performance. Told dealer but they said smoking was normal. First diesel truck so never paid it any mind.
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Originally Posted by RP350
Thanx for some insight. How hard is it to replace the ICP sensor. Do you need any special tools? Vloney if it is an injector problem would'nt it always be rough idling. Basically mine starts in the morning at start -up, idles rough and then smooths out. more noticeable at lower temps in the morning. I live in the northeast and the climate is changing and I'm afraid that my truck will not start if gets any colder. Need to pin point problem and fix right away. No more confidence in the dealers in my area. A shame I can't take it to the International dealer 10 minutes from my house
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Originally Posted by RP350
Problem with that is my truck has 107K on it. They said the more you drove it the better it performed. That was true until I took to the dealer for mormal maintainence at 40K they reflashed the computer and it went down hill from that point. Had smoking problems from very beginning but never hindered performance. Told dealer but they said smoking was normal. First diesel truck so never paid it any mind.
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Is the sensor a part of ford's 100k warranty, just dont want pay ford to put it on the computer and tell me the same thing i alreay know and then tell me it is not covered. dont mind paying the $100 deductable if they will actuall fix the problem.
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Thanx for the response guys. Did notice a oil leak after 90K maintainence from dealer. Looks like its a main seal because its coming from the bell housing area. Is it possible that some of the oil channels are clogged stopping injectors to be oiled properly