Gains from bolt ons?
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Gains from bolt ons?
I'm looking at buying a 2006 S-Crew XLT with a 4.6L and tow package. I would prefer the 5.4L but with the extra $2K rebate being offered for the 4.6L makes it almost a $3K difference. I’ve read many of the posts recommending the 5.4L option with the heavier duty tranny and rear and I would go this route if the budget allowed. I don’t plan to do a lot of towing and the max would probably be about 4500 lbs.
Given there’s probably a 4.6 in my future, what kind of horsepower gains can be made with a programmer/tuner and minor bolt-ons at a later time? Would it be enough to split the difference with the 5.4, say around 265 hp?
A side note, since Ford is currently pushing the 2006 4.6L with the rebate, will they likely offer a similar rebate on leftover 5.4L once the 4.6L are gone?
Thanks
Given there’s probably a 4.6 in my future, what kind of horsepower gains can be made with a programmer/tuner and minor bolt-ons at a later time? Would it be enough to split the difference with the 5.4, say around 265 hp?
A side note, since Ford is currently pushing the 2006 4.6L with the rebate, will they likely offer a similar rebate on leftover 5.4L once the 4.6L are gone?
Thanks
Last edited by raccol; Aug 31, 2006 at 09:11 PM.
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No way would you get close to that... the best gains that i have seen on a dyno is reg cab 5.4 every bolt on tuner , cat back , CAI forgot what else and he dynoed at 270 RWHP this with a 5.4 reg cab ....
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I have a 4.6 and I believe we have 235hp and about 297 tq.....I have a Volant intake, 40 series exhaust, and Edge tuner...Lets play paper dyno. 5 hp for the intake, 3 hp for the exhaust, and 35hp/50lbs tq(that is what Edge claims at stage 3 with minimum of 93 octane), that should be about 288-290 hp...Torque should be about 360 tq...
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Originally Posted by is300wrx
I have a 4.6 and I believe we have 235hp and about 297 tq.....I have a Volant intake, 40 series exhaust, and Edge tuner...Lets play paper dyno. 5 hp for the intake, 3 hp for the exhaust, and 35hp/50lbs tq(that is what Edge claims at stage 3 with minimum of 93 octane), that should be about 288-290 hp...Torque should be about 360 tq...
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your peak gains should be more like 10 rwhp but gain RWHP down low
So stock at 2000 RPM's you have 100 rwhp but with the edge 130 RWHP...this just a example
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Originally Posted by is300wrx
I have a 4.6 and I believe we have 235hp and about 297 tq.....I have a Volant intake, 40 series exhaust, and Edge tuner...Lets play paper dyno. 5 hp for the intake, 3 hp for the exhaust, and 35hp/50lbs tq(that is what Edge claims at stage 3 with minimum of 93 octane), that should be about 288-290 hp...Torque should be about 360 tq...
I have a feeling I am going to get flamed for this post
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Just my .02 from my experiences with the Cobra.
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Thanks for the input. So basically, about 15hp is about all you can expect to get? I test drove the 4.6L on the highway last night and passing is terrible. Will the tuner make any significant difference with this or am I just out of luck unless I figure out how to get the 5.4?<o></o>
Any comments on this?
A side note, since Ford is currently pushing the 2006 4.6L with the rebate, will they likely offer a similar rebate on leftover 5.4L once the 4.6L are gone?
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on a reg cab 4.6, with our efans, pullies, and a custom exhaust, we dynoed 209/233 peak. We had BamaChips make a custom tune for it right there on the dyno, and peaked 225/279, so, at the peak of each band, the tune gained 16/46 at the wheels. I wish had gone back to look at the max gain. It held well above 250 torque until about 4700 rpm.
These engines have plenty of oomph that can be released, so dont fell bad that you got one, they still make enough power to move around in traffic.
The 4.6 in the truck is a 2v for now, expect a 3v in late 07 or 08
These engines have plenty of oomph that can be released, so dont fell bad that you got one, they still make enough power to move around in traffic.
The 4.6 in the truck is a 2v for now, expect a 3v in late 07 or 08
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Originally Posted by raccol
Thanks for the input. So basically, about 15hp is about all you can expect to get? I test drove the 4.6L on the highway last night and passing is terrible. Will the tuner make any significant difference with this or am I just out of luck unless I figure out how to get the 5.4?<o></o>
Any comments on this?
Any comments on this?
BTW my Truck is a 4.6L 4x4 with 3.55LS gearing
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Originally Posted by Bob Jusnes
on a reg cab 4.6, with our efans, pullies, and a custom exhaust, we dynoed 209/233 peak. We had BamaChips make a custom tune for it right there on the dyno, and peaked 225/279, so, at the peak of each band, the tune gained 16/46 at the wheels. I wish had gone back to look at the max gain. It held well above 250 torque until about 4700 rpm.
These engines have plenty of oomph that can be released, so dont fell bad that you got one, they still make enough power to move around in traffic.
The 4.6 in the truck is a 2v for now, expect a 3v in late 07 or 08
These engines have plenty of oomph that can be released, so dont fell bad that you got one, they still make enough power to move around in traffic.
The 4.6 in the truck is a 2v for now, expect a 3v in late 07 or 08
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http://jusnesmodified.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=156_161_268 _417&products_id=187
Efans range, but the most popular (and most expensive) is $315 for Dual 16s with Dual Controllers
http://jusnesmodified.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=156_161_234
Or you can get them both, in a package deal with a gatorback belt for $529
http://jusnesmodified.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=156_161_275 &products_id=208
All these prices include shipping
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Originally Posted by raccol
I'm looking at buying a 2006 S-Crew XLT with a 4.6L and tow package. I would prefer the 5.4L but with the extra $2K rebate being offered for the 4.6L makes it almost a $3K difference. I’ve read many of the posts recommending the 5.4L option with the heavier duty tranny and rear and I would go this route if the budget allowed. I don’t plan to do a lot of towing and the max would probably be about 4500 lbs.
Given there’s probably a 4.6 in my future, what kind of horsepower gains can be made with a programmer/tuner and minor bolt-ons at a later time? Would it be enough to split the difference with the 5.4, say around 265 hp?
A side note, since Ford is currently pushing the 2006 4.6L with the rebate, will they likely offer a similar rebate on leftover 5.4L once the 4.6L are gone?
Thanks
Given there’s probably a 4.6 in my future, what kind of horsepower gains can be made with a programmer/tuner and minor bolt-ons at a later time? Would it be enough to split the difference with the 5.4, say around 265 hp?
A side note, since Ford is currently pushing the 2006 4.6L with the rebate, will they likely offer a similar rebate on leftover 5.4L once the 4.6L are gone?
Thanks
