Sorry, but the hemi will out pull almost any other truck on the market. And it's gas mileage unloaded also shows it. The auto tranny in a dodge is the biggest down fall.

The only thing the ford has over the dodge IMO is the automatic tranny. Looks and the rest is everyones own opinion.

 

The key word is "almost." In a 1/2T, a 6.0 Max Chebbie gasser will smoke a Hemi. In the '07 (new) Silverado, it'll be an even larger power spread, and variable displacement should put it on top of the gas-mileage heap as well.

 

You mean 1/2 ton....right????

 

ya I know the 6.0 is strong, but at the truck pulls, the hemi seems to beat the 6.0 pretty handedly. Where the V10 and 5.4 don't pull even close to the other 2.

I am sure that the new Vortex Max is a strong package with 345 hp. It would be interesting to see one. I just have not had the chance.

Ya in the 1/2 ton.

 

I'm gonna have to admit I know NOTHING about truck pulls, so any debate leaves me at a disadvantage.

Are you saying that the 6.8L V10 with 360 HP and 450 pound feet of torque and 5.7L hemi with 350Hp/390torque are in the same class, pull the same sled/weight and the hemi wins???

I'm gonna have to see that one to believe it.

 

The Hemi lends itself better to mods than the 6.0. GM's pretty much squeezed everything out of that motor out of the box. Which is odd, because GM's powertrain division knows something hottrodders have known for decades- what's good for horsepower is probably good for gas mileage as well (higher efficiency all the way around). Which also explains why GM is running some over-achieving pushrod motors at the present- at least in stock form. Cadillac is running a 403 HP/417 ft lbs torque 6.2 V8 in an Escalade- think about that for a moment. No Blower, not even overhead cams.... the thing is actually stronger than a Northstar.

 

Haven't driven either, or really read any specs on either, have talked to a couple guys though, if you go Dodge/Hemi get a limited slip, or put one in, apparently the right rear likes to smoke and the left rear does nothing. Don't have that problem with the Ford,,,, is that a plus?! You can ALWAYS supercharge the 5.4, now I HAVE driven one of them, SSSWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!! In the end, your call!

 

Hemi is overated. Torque down low is non existent. I really cant believe a hemi would beat anything at a truck pull. Id have to see that to believe it. Every pickup has its advantages an disadvantages. I have had a bunch off Ford trucks since high schoool. Seven to be exact. None off them have ever let me down or failed to please thats why I keep buying them. Off course Dad always had Fords so thats what I wanted. I have riden in all brands off trucks over the years I have come to the conclusion thatFord has a truck thats hard to beat. It has a lot off great features that aim to please.

 

yes that is what I am saying.

In truck pulling, all gassers are put together. 2500 or 1500. The hemi's seem to win. Even a 6.0gm with the 4L80 tranny pulls better than the 8.1 because of the gearing in the allison. With the allison, first gear is too low and second gear is too high it just bogs the motor out. With the 4L80, the 6.0 is in 1st in 4low and it seems to have just the right amount of speed but it is low enough to spin the tires at the end of the pull.

the hemi just seems to pull the sled good. it has better hp with the right gearing. it would be very interesting to see the new vortex max up against the hemi. it would be very close.

 

That's great, i like that one.

Question. Is it at all possible to converse in any way shape or form without being lambasted?

 

Lots of people.

No rules.

So the answer is no, probably not.

 

NO!! And converse is a shoe.

It is pretty rough around here when these subjects come up. I tend to stay away, I know what I know, and I love my truck. That 1500 Hemi sure is fast, but I bet my ole' truck could pull it backwards crosslots while it yelps like a beat dog.

 

This is the best truck forum I know of but it is also a Ford site, hence you should know what you will hear. Most people on here believe the Ford is the best truck which is why they bought one.

Now, I'm going to play the other side here...

Two years ago I spent many weeks, months actually comparing the 05' F150 Lariat Supercrew 4x4 w/ the 5.4L, automatic to the 05' Ram 1500 Laramie Quadcab 4x4 w/ 5.7L Hemi, automatic. I would even test drive the Dodge to the Ford dealership to test drive the F150 just to ensure I knew which one I liked better.

This is what I decided:

Exterior looks: The F150 is the best looking 1/2 ton truck

Interior: The Ram Laramie has a great interior. It's simple and comfortable. Although the seats don't look as plush as the F150 they are more comfortable to me. It's laid out perfect, has the best steering wheel mounted radio controls of anything I've driven. The Steering wheel is the perfect shape and thickness. In summary, it's a little understated which is a plus.
The F150 Lariat got all the press with it's interior but seems gaudy to me. Too many colors and textures going on inside. I liked the FX4 interior style but I didn't want black interior in Texas. Winner: Dodge. This may susrpise many people here but if you spend some time in the Laramie model you will see what I mean.

Power: No contest. Dodge.

Stereo: The Dodge's Infinity system is just simply better than Ford's "audiophile" system. The steering wheel mounted radio controls I mentioned earlier are perfect.

Ride: The F150 has the better ride unless you got one with the infamous vibration then.

Quality: Well, I think it's either a draw or maybe the Dodge in this case. The 04'-05' F150 had many problems then. It seemed like everyone on here with one had the vibration problem. Dodge has come a long way in quality.

Image: Dodge suffers here. It seems it's the truck preferred by every group I don't want to be a part of. IMO, trucks should NOT be lowered. They should be stock or slightly lifted, 4x4 without 20" rims. I see more lifted Dodges here than any other brand here in Texas, btw.

Summary: I bought the Dodge and haven't regretted not buying the F150 one bit. However, I did screw up. What I really wanted and needed was a 3/4-ton diesel which is why I'm on here now.... trying to decide what I want to do.

 

one thing and 2007 Ford F-150 is not underpowered

 

TheWhip just the fact you came here and asked this question gives me the idea you need to think alittle more whether you need a truck or not. You really seem to like the dodge so go buy it. I will tell you this though, it might out run my Ford but it sure as hell wont out pull. I'll put my ford against any hemi anyday. I've already done it to many times. I cant out run them. The hemi is alot of hype. For the money you cant beat a ford !/2 ton truck. For the power you cant beat the 3/4 and ton fords. Be 21 and go buy a truck and stand behind what ever you get.