Vibration Answer!!!
They said that the there is nothing wrong with my truck. The said that the vibration is just a characteristic of my truck! Can you belive that! They said that they took my front bumper and brush gaurd off (???), removed my driveline and axels, drove it and it still does it. they put it on a lift and it doesnt happen. with a 500lb load, it doesnt do it. they said that they have no answer to it. and then they tell my they are going to charge me for 16+ hours of labor. Ha! Any ideas of what i should do next. Im thinking I need to take the issue to the ford manufacture, and go above the dealership with what they are trying to tell.
Last edited by wolfe1104; Aug 25, 2006 at 09:18 PM. Reason: I cant spell
I took the truck to Wingfoot (commercial branch of Goodyear) to have all the tires balanced (took them 2 tries) and on the second attempt they measured all the rears for out of round, and stated that all these larger tires are out of round to some degree, and it's normal. They redid all the rears (balancing) and the vibration has reduced considerably since but is starting to come back a little more after less than a week of driving.
I have Kumho tires which I bought with the truck in TX, but I am considering purchasing all new Michelin tires at Costco as they are $100 cheaper than Wingfoot can offer ($256 in Clearwater, FL).
I'll weigh in when I decide what to do and what the results are...
What tires do you folks have and have you checked them for out of round?
They said that the there is nothing wrong with my truck. The said that the vibration is just a characteristic of my truck! Can you belive that! They said that they took my front bumper and brush gaurd off (???), removed my driveline and axels, drove it and it still does it. they put it on a lift and it doesnt happen. with a 500lb load, it doesnt do it. they said that they have no answer to it. and then they tell my they are going to charge me for 16+ hours of labor. Ha! Any ideas of what i should do next. Im thinking I need to take the issue to the ford manufacture, and go above the dealership with what they are trying to tell.
There are some clues there, though. When they put it on a lift or loaded 500 pounds they changed the angle of the driveline. They should look to the u-joints, and test the truck on a dynamometer so it simulates driving it on the road. Some people have reported on this page that they needed to shim the mid-drive line carrier bearing (I think) to change the drive line angle to stop a vibration.
Anyhow, you should certainly first complain to the regional office to eliminate the charge for getting no answer, then hopefully find a better dealer shop.
Good Luck
Warren
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the reason for the long story getting to " I had bad U joints" Is I have changed and diagnosed a lot of U joints. I was a heavy equipment mechanic for 8+ years. All my joints felt fine!!! I even did the 50 mile drive then climbed under it and felt every one of the caps and none of them where even warm much less hot. So my advice... find a drive line shop and get them to check it out.
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Good to know u-joints may be a possible problem even if they apppear to be fine.
Do these rear ends have floating axels, where they can pull the axles and leave the hub bolted to the axle housing?
I've posted this in two other threads concerning the vibration problems with our trucks. I'll just cut and paste it here. If you've read it before, forgive me, but if not, something to check out.
Ok guys and gals. I traded my Ranger for my early 99 with my brother-in-law. He's hard of hearing so it's no surprise to me he never heard or felt the rumble I was having just like everyone else here. I went and had the tires rebalanced and rotated (only 6k on them) and did not make a difference either. Everyone was telling me that it was the tires/wheels. There was no difference after the rotation, so in my relative shallow reasoning, I ruled out the tires/wheels. I thought, ok it's got to be the driveline. I'm thinking the carrier bearing. I have a very reputable driveline company locally that I've had great work from in the past. To my great big surprise it turned out to be a dry and non-sliding spline on the drive shaft. Those that notice a difference when loaded down is because your forcing the spline to slide in a little and that changes the dynamics of the driveshaft. I have almost 100k on my truck so I had the universal joints, carrier bearing, and the spline replaced and a new one welded on that has a grease fitting all for $300. Didn't think that was too bad. After taking it for a ride and being skepticle, it surprised me on how so smooth it was and absolutely quite throughout the whole speed range. He told me that I probably could have dropped the shaft, pulled the yoke/universal off the spline, cleaned and greased it and the trouble would have been gone. You all might look at that as your cause if your not getting any relief with any other fixes. I can't tell you how smooth it is now. I can understand how my brother-in-law didn't hear it, but crap, it would vibrate so bad, I can't believe he couldn't notice it. Good luck to all. Hope this helps someone.
Marty







