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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Diesel Volatility

Got a prob.. Drain vale started leaking a little on monday so i ordered the o-rings. this morning it gets much worse. O-rings should be delivered this afternoon but i have to get home to get them.

what is the chance of the exhaust igniting the leaking diesel while driving (30 miles to get home)?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Alan, I wouldn't worry about it. Before I knew there was a drain tube that was supposed to be connected to the bowl, I drained it into the engine valley. Don't ask... I never had any issues. I have sense then reconnected that hose.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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pretty much no chance. diesel is no where near as volatile as gasoline, in fact if you threw a light match into a bucket of diesel it would probably go out
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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I drove for about 150 miles towing with a huge fuel leak (I didn't know it, long story). Fuel was sizzling on the engine and exhaust, no problems except a huge mess.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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It's tough to get the charcoal going with diesel. Kinda like the crap they sell for lighter fluid, maybe just a little more flammable.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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I made it home, now i cant find my 1/4" ratchet and the valley has eaten 2 T20's so far. Need to let it cool off a little more so I can get my hands in a little better. Will one cycle of the key be enuff to fill the bowl or should I give it a couple of cycles before I crank it up.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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normally I dont put the lid on until I cycle the key and watch it get close to full, then I spin on the lid, tighten it down and cycle the key again... if you turn off the radio and fan, then listen, you will probably hear a little click about 30 seconds after the wait to start lite goes out... when I hear that click, then I start it up. it also seems to prevent that romping in the winter time as well.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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I gave it 2 cycles and she fired right up Now all I have to do is clean up all that fuel sprayed every where.

Reason I asked in the first place is that the Autoignition Temp of diesel is 494 degrees (so exhaust temps do have the ability to ignite diesel without an ignitionn source) and I know EGT's exceed that but wasnt sure what the actual transfer temp of the header would be with air moving over it
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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There were a couple an incidents in the helicopter world where there was a fuel leak, one was sprayin on the engine for about a half an hour before it started on fire and another one was fuel dripping on the motor for over 3 hours and no fire. Difference was one was a mist. Diesel volatility just like jet fuel is more in the vapors, so a high pressure mist is more apt and easier to catch on fire then a drip. That being said a fuel leak is nothing to play around with.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Its fixed now... that last trip home took 8 gallons / 30 miles of very "nice" driving (i got passed by low flying birds)
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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You can do a little test to ease your worries in the future... poor a bit of diesel on the ground and hold a match or two or five to it. Good luck igniting it.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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When i was in the military they told us that diesel itself has to reach a temp of 248 for flash point
 
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Diesel's flash point is 248* but its autoignition temp is around 430* and that is well below EGT's. Diesel is fairly safe as long as it is cool and unpressurized.

Flash Point = needs an ingintion source
Autoignition Temp = spontaneous combustion
 
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