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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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5.4 Check Engine light only when towing

I have a 1998 Expedition, 5.4. 217,000 miles. I have changed the pcv valve and the lines to it, cleaned the mass air flow sensor. I get the lean on banks 1 and 2 when I tow my travel trailer. I can clear the codes and drive the truck for weeks with no codes. When I hook up the trailer within 5 miles the check engine light comes on. I have searched the forums and haven't been able to come up with anything. Anybody have any other ideas????
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Battery draw? Just throwing that out there. Pulling the trailer doesn't do a thing to engine performance... the only thing I can think of that has changed is your electrical.

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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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How old are your 02 sensors?

Sometimes they slowly degrade, often not enough to throw a code under normal conditions but when puling you are at high engine load/large throttle openings.

I replace mine regularly, every 40K miles or so as preventive maintenance.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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The O2 sensors after the cat were replaced about 20,000 miles ago. I haven't changed the front two because they look like a pain to get to. I guess I'll have to get them changed this weekend hopefully. Thanks for the replies. John
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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The rear ones don't really matter at all, they just tell the ECU that your cats are working.

The front ones are the ones you should be concerned with.

BTW - I've never changed my rears, only the fronts every 40K.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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o2's are my guess with lean banks 1 and 2. with that code it was the o2 sensor in the manifold in my 99 zx2
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Clean the MAF - oh, wait you already did that

When was the last time the fuel filter was changed?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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I have never changed the fuel filter. How would a dirty fuel filter give a lean code? Thanks for the reply krewat. John
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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I have never changed the fuel filter. How would a dirty fuel filter give a lean code? Thanks for the reply krewat. John
By restricting the flow of fuel to the motor, causing it to run lean. Fuel-rail pressure will drop under loads. Of course, to test it, you'd have to hook up a gauge and the trailer and put it into the same situations.

My V10 sucks up a lot of gas, and by 20K miles, the fuel filter was pretty well clogged and certainly made a difference in regular driving. If you don't know it's been changed recently, do it.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Smile Hello

I would like to say hello to everyone here and hope that we may all find answers and suggestions to the problems we may be experiencing. Hello to all!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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