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B 20
Hey guys,
I started running B 20 today and unless I have some adverse effect, I plan to run it from now on.
Is anyone else running B 20, specifically this is 80% diesel and 20% palm oil.
Any problems, concerns, suggestions?
Thanks,
Gloveman
I started running B 20 today and unless I have some adverse effect, I plan to run it from now on.
Is anyone else running B 20, specifically this is 80% diesel and 20% palm oil.
Any problems, concerns, suggestions?
Thanks,
Gloveman
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Ford's position is only B5 or less.
More will void your warrenty if found to delaminate your fuel tank, plug filters and/or cause other fuel related problems. Use at your own risk!!!
I am sure that B20 works fine and you may believe that it is fine.... but just know that Ford has published a Technical Service Bulletin advising not to use more than B5.
Has been debated on many other threads priviously.
FYI - Use what you want and others will say to use it... but just know Ford's official position and that your fuel filters may plug up quicker due to delamination of the fuel tank and the "cleansing action" of bio-diesel.
More will void your warrenty if found to delaminate your fuel tank, plug filters and/or cause other fuel related problems. Use at your own risk!!!
I am sure that B20 works fine and you may believe that it is fine.... but just know that Ford has published a Technical Service Bulletin advising not to use more than B5.
Has been debated on many other threads priviously.
FYI - Use what you want and others will say to use it... but just know Ford's official position and that your fuel filters may plug up quicker due to delamination of the fuel tank and the "cleansing action" of bio-diesel.
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Originally Posted by Gloveman
...specifically this is 80% diesel and 20% palm oil...
If it meets the ASTM spec for bio-diesel, your only concerns are what have already been mentioned.
If you are mixing in SVO or WVO with yuor diesel and running itin your truck, I think you will have problems.
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Not straight Veggie Oil
Originally Posted by laredo7mma
My only concern is that you know it is palm oil. You are not mixing 20% straight veggie oil with diesel are you? Is it home brew bio-D?
If it meets the ASTM spec for bio-diesel, your only concerns are what have already been mentioned.
If you are mixing in SVO or WVO with yuor diesel and running itin your truck, I think you will have problems.
If it meets the ASTM spec for bio-diesel, your only concerns are what have already been mentioned.
If you are mixing in SVO or WVO with yuor diesel and running itin your truck, I think you will have problems.
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Originally Posted by laredo7mma
So are they mixing straight veggie oil with diesel?
This is not a fly by night operation. This is a major regional oil and gas supplier.
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Originally Posted by Gloveman
This is professionally mixed by my local oil company. They are using different oils to see if one performs better than another.
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Originally Posted by Gloveman
No, they are meeting all of the industry standards for Bio-Diesel.
This is not a fly by night operation. This is a major regional oil and gas supplier.
This is not a fly by night operation. This is a major regional oil and gas supplier.
Unless the oil company you are dealing with is doing their own transesterfication of the base oil stock, then it is hard to know what the original base stock was. Like barnbridge said, most bio-d is made from soy (in this country). Rape seed oil (canola) is another source and is mostly grown in Canada. You can find oil specific methyl-esters (bio-diesel), but it is rare to see them listed as such.
If it actually is palm methyl ester, that is great, but it comes mostly from India and Maylasia. However, palm has one of the highest gallons of oil per acre of all the oil crop plants and the methyl esters are in the C16 to C18 chain (right where you want them).
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Thanks for the Info Laredo
You seem to know way more than me about the process and kind of oil.
I appreciate your input.
The owner of the oil company is a friend, that is why I know what kind of oil he is using.
I appreciate your input.
The owner of the oil company is a friend, that is why I know what kind of oil he is using.
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Originally Posted by Gloveman
You seem to know way more than me about the process and kind of oil.
I appreciate your input.
The owner of the oil company is a friend, that is why I know what kind of oil he is using.
I appreciate your input.
The owner of the oil company is a friend, that is why I know what kind of oil he is using.
The only reason I know about the bio-diesel is because i was, at one point, going to make my own, until I realized that I can't. I am way to much of an **** retentive engineer, and I wouldn't be happy until my home brew met the ASTM spec. So by the time that happened, it would be cheaper to buy it. Now if I had and old "low tech" diesel with IDI, I might have a different view.
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I actually saw a guy today at the pump pour a quart-sized or bigger container of Vegetable oil into his tank before filling. His truck was a fairly new Duramax. I quickly asked him why and he replied "BioDiesel". I started to lauch into a question session, but realized that someone that would do that to their vehicle probably has some strange interpretation of their own plus it was just too damned HOT. I hurried and finished filling my truck so I could follow behind him to see if anything would happen and possibly give him a ride(grin). Come to find out he lives just a few miles from me so I will have to keep an eye on his testing!
I saw that recently Dodge approved a higher percentage of Biofuel. I'm sure as the whole process gets more time and testing the rest of the manufacturers will up their amounts.
I saw that recently Dodge approved a higher percentage of Biofuel. I'm sure as the whole process gets more time and testing the rest of the manufacturers will up their amounts.
