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Old 07-26-2006, 09:39 PM
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Question no start condition

2001 f-250 7.3...engine started running rough in 103 degree weather...air filter dirty...new filter added...little change....fuel filter dirty....new filter added....drained canister but did not fill with diesel.....(Shame on Me)....started engine.....immediately ran out of fuel....opened fuel filter canister and filled with diesel....still will not start....used starting fluid...3 times engine start and died each time....used starting fluid again this time with wife starting and me squirting fluid to keep engine running for 60 seconds....still no diesel to engine....took top off fuel filter canister still full of fuel....any suggestions
 

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Check the power to the pump, if it is getting power must be either a bad pump or plugged pickup screen in the tank.
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:45 PM
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Let me make sure I have this straight. After all you've desribed, when you try to start, nothing despite having fuel in the filter bowl. Is that correct?

How long have you owned the truck and why do you think the temps have something to do with it? How many miles?

When was the last time you changed the oil and what is the current level on the stick? How are your batteries? One bad one will kill ya.
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:19 AM
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don't think temp issue.....but was low on fuel and filled up tank w/diesel before problem started....air filter & fuel filter very dirt....checking fuel pump for power next.....because seems like something keeping fuel sending to motor off line....will keep updated.....
 

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Old 07-27-2006, 11:20 AM
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no prestart power to fuel pump noted.....have already ck fuses yesterday....going to recheck fuses today....maybe ECS....will it give a no start fault???....and shut off fuel to whole system or just the enjectors>>>????going to disconect bats and see if system resets.....
 
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Turn the key on and get under the truck right away to hear and feel if the pump is running or trying. If you've done that. You could run a jumper wire to the positive terminal on the pump from the positive terminal on the battery and check for operation. (Hook the batt side first, then the pump). You could also use a battery charger in a similar fashion.

If the pump is dead, it's not a fuse. If it runs, try to start it that way.

If it still won't start, hook up a hose to your drain tube from the filter bowl. Run it into a suitable container and check for suitable flow volume. Shouldn't just trickle along.

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no sound from fuel pump....going to jumper pos side...than go to next step...
 
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What about the inertial fuel shut off?
 
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inertial fuel shut off OK....power to fuel pump when turn ignition OK...."BUT" fuel pump only clicks once than stops does not keep humming....off to get new pump....not cheap...
 
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inertial fuel shut off OK....power to fuel pump when turn ignition OK...."BUT" fuel pump only clicks once than stops does not keep humming....off to get new pump....not cheap...
Keep us posted operator. I hope you made sure that that is the next step. Many ways to check these things. If it won't operate while wired seperately with a good fuel supply, you have likely found your culprit. Let us know.
 
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back with new fuel pump...BOSH 0580464074....& $268.98 later....put on new pump standard procedure.....crossed fingers....engine started right up....now for a few after thoughts....a simple check of the crank position sensor.....when cranking engine if there is movement by the tachometer needle CPS should be OK....when ignition sequence iniated fuel pump (under driver side of frame) should always hummmmm (my problem click no hum) for about 30-40 seconds (unless inertia switch tripped)....thank for everyones help.....Best Regards
 
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Glad ya could fix it yourself. Would have cost a lot more to have done. Now make sure there is nothing upstream to harm the new punp. That Bosch should run for a long time.
 
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
Glad ya could fix it yourself. Would have cost a lot more to have done. Now make sure there is nothing upstream to harm the new punp. That Bosch should run for a long time.
That is true.
When I first bought my truck I was finding out a lot of air can get in.

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good fix. operator, are you military?
 
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:13 AM
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X-Navy vet 1963-1966.....next need to change fluid & filter in trany....130000 miles....but not now just want to enjoy for the weekend....bought this truck for a work truck....have to hussel for money.....say I'm to old (61) for regular job....except walmart greeter....thanks but no thanks....I'm like my old truck, not dead yet....
 

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