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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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More problems with my 04

I guess the only solution to this piece of trash is to run it off a cliff and buy a Chevrolet or Dodge.

My power loss problems continue and now that I've managed to pee off Ford and evidently the dealer, nobody will talk to me about it now much less fix it. I guess I'm on my own at 47,000 miles.

After my boot blew off, I took it in, they put it back on, 2 miles down the road it blew back off. They said they would order me one. That was a month and a half ago. No new boot yet. Anyhow, I cleaned it and re installed it. It hasn't fallen off again yet, but does get loose. I tightened the clamps on it and the other 4 boots that were loose as well. Did that every Sunday for 2 weeks till I bottomed out the clamps. I also removed, cleaned and reinstalled the egr valve. The truck actually picked up and ran pretty good for a couple weeks, but then started loosing power. One day last week, I turned up a hill in 1st gear and half way up it dang near stalled out. I had to stick it in Granny Low and was contemplating putting the transfer case in 4 low before I got to the top. This was a small blacktop street about half a mile long. All be it, a steep grade, my 300-6 would have pulled it in 2nd gear easy. There is no way in heck that diesel ought to have stalled down in 1st gear.

It started smoking quite a bit after that and a little later that afternoon I was running down a 2 lane highway and hit a little grade at about 60 mph. It sounded like it backfired, it started bucking, shuttering, smoking like a steam locomotive and lost power. I was in 2nd gear at 20 mph by the time I got to the top and thought I was going to have to call a tow truck. Once I topped the hill, I put it out of gear and shut the engine off and coasted for half a mile and started it back up with the clutch. It ran crappy, but finally smoothed out. Once it smoothed out, it had no low end power again and smoking pretty bad on every shift. I drove it around Thursday and Friday like that. It would take spells that it was running fine and other spells that it wouldn't pull it's own weight.

Today it was really getting on my nerves. I stopped at a client's house and when I left it filled his front yard with smoke before it finally picked up and went on. I pulled over and plugged my tuner in and checked it's codes

PO336 - Cam Position Sensor (Never have seen that one before)
PO403 - EGR (It's unplugged and that's normal)
PO405 - EGR again
P1000 - Drive it some more

The tuner is Superchips and I went ahead and dropped it back to stock. The smoking went away and power was back. I'd almost guarantee that in a week, the smoke will be back, power loss back, and the same old problems. I'll probably put it back on performance and the whole mess goes away for a week or 2 and then it's back.

This beats anything I've ever seen. Can the computers on these things get like MS Windows with a virus? It's almost like the programming gets garbled somehow and the darn engine doesn't know how to run itself? I know at one time the dealer tech told me something happened to it and I'd been running around on fail safe mode.

I didn't have not 1 problem with this truck till they did the first software update about 6 months after I bought it. That was a recall and the dealership invited me to come get it done. Since then, this truck has been nothing but a nightmare with a monthly payment.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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You shouldn't install tuners in these vehicles if you'reworried about reliability. You shouldn't dog ford for modifying their product. You shouldn't have harassed the dealer by having your friends call. Your attitude and harassment upset the dealer not the truck. Trade it in already and spare everyone your monotonous negativity. At the very least try a different dealer.
 

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Ok, I'm a bit of a redneck, and brother, you have this coming.

I put the ding dang tuner on it because I was having problems that nobody seemed to be able to solve and the Ford Engineer told me it might help solve the problem. Trust me, I'm tight as bark on a tree. I really didn't want to spend $800 on a gadget to make the $40,000 truck I bought run. I figured it ougth to have come with whatever it needed to run.

As for the calling thing, I expect people to call me back. I get extremely tired of this BS of put a message on my voice mail and I'll call you back. I gave the Ford witch 2 weeks to call me back and she didn't. If she'd have called back within 24 hours like her voice mail promised she would, that would never have happened, but **** me off by not calling back and you can expect me to not be the friendliest person in the world. I don't know what Ford expects. Do I have to go get an SOB lawyer to get my truck fixed?

You've accused me of trolling more than once, and I don't know what your definition of that is, but I've got a truck with problems and I thought this site was for the purpose of trying to solve those problems. If me coming here seeking advice is no more fruitful that talking to [edited by kw5413...slander]

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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did you replace the cps then?
 
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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Kentucky Skipper

Generally speaking, you have not asked for help here. When given, you either challenge the advice or state that it has already been done. You have not asked for help in this thread.

You are using this web site, and others, as a platform to attack Ford and or individual representatives. You have been asked not to do so here. Any further abuse of this site to suit your own personal, vindictive means will result in deleted posts / threads.

If you don't like it, feel free to move on.

Take your own advice, drive it off a cliff and buy a Chevy, or a Dodge, or '63 Studebaker. Probably won't matter much either way.
 
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kentucky Skipper
I guess the only solution to this piece of trash is to run it off a cliff and buy a Chevrolet or Dodge.
Then do it already and leave us alone here. I am sure I am not the only one here that is tired of your posts. Buy a different brand and bug their forums.
 
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kentucky Skipper
I didn't have not 1 problem with this truck till they did the first software update about 6 months after I bought it. That was a recall and the dealership invited me to come get it done. Since then, this truck has been nothing but a nightmare with a monthly payment.

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If you truly believe that the computer is the source of all your troubles than chase that. From your other posts I have seen, I think that could be it. Your engine is probably mechanically sound (not talking about the turbo or injectors) as any mechanical problem should be too obvious for a tech. Others seem to suggest that you go to an incompetent dealer, (whether true or not) they will likely not help you anymore after the way you have treated them (the ford rep probably doesnt like you either). Either take the truck far away to anouther dealer (I'm talking 3-4 hour drive) and have it reflashed or change out the computer from a totaled truck in a junkyard.
 
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Kentucky Skipper
now that I've managed to pee off Ford and evidently the dealer, nobody will talk to me about it
I know you have a problem that is real and I don't blame your dealer. I can see why he doesn't respond to your call for help from the posts you have made here at FTE. Your truck does not have a virus in the programming, rule that one out.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kentucky Skipper
I tightened the clamps on it and the other 4 boots that were loose as well. Did that every Sunday for 2 weeks till I bottomed out the clamps.
You have a torque specification and the spring keeps constant pressure on the clamp. Bottoming out the clamp damages the boot.

Originally Posted by Kentucky Skipper
I also removed, cleaned and reinstalled the egr valve. The truck actually picked up and ran pretty good for a couple weeks, but then started loosing power.
A clean and unplugged EGR does not reflect a damaged EGR. You could have damaged the o-ring upon installation. An EGR turned off in programing or unplugged does not equal closed or sealing properly.

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It started smoking quite a bit after that and a little later that afternoon I was running down a 2 lane highway and hit a little grade at about 60 mph. It sounded like it backfired, it started bucking, shuttering, smoking like a steam locomotive and lost power.
Tell tale sign of a bad EGR. Your EBP tube could be plugged, but without seeing the truck this only speculation.
 
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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The lawyer idea may not be a bad solution. Alot of the lemon law lawyers work on a contingency where they don't get paid unless you get a settlement. But then they take like 1/3. I don't know all the details of your situation, but it may be a viable anvenue.

Other than that I would dump it and run, or try to find another dealer. My 2004 runs great, but still leaks/seeps a bit of oil even after numerous repair attempts by Ford. If yours happens to "fall" off a cliff, mine is for sale.
 
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Kentucky Skipper, I removed your last post due to redundant complaints that all have seen before.

People have offered suggestions in this thread that you don't even bother to acknowledge yet you offer up another sorry truck, sorry customer service, sorry Ford post.
 
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Kentucky skipper,

I also own an 04, and i also have alot of problems with the performance. Mine is completley stock engine wise. I get dang angry at the service advisor for the things they say, or how they act when i take it in. They have heard all this garbage before and i know that they are tired of customers like us who go off on them. I try my best to not do take my anger out on them. Each and everytime i go to the dealer for repairs, after my visit, i get a call from the dealer customer satisfaction rep. I tell them how happy or unhappy i am with my visit and whether or not i will return or even if i would recommend the facility to a friend. Maybe that should be the avenue you should take, and not take your frustrations out on anyone in these forums. It is not their fault. But honstly, i can appreciate your frustrations, its hard to know that you paid $40,000 plus for a truck and it has nothing but probs. The old saying goes, "you catch more bees with honey than vinegar" . try treating these fine people with respect and you might get more help.
 




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