Hey everyone, I am thinking about taking out my v10 in my 2000 ford f 250 superduty and putting in a Ford crate engine, I was thinking about going with a 460 ci. How hard would this be??? Would I have to change motor mounts??? The engine I would be putting in would be carburated so how would I go about the computer being that it runs everything from the windows to the gauges I think??? Not to smart with all this but I would like to do it with help of course. All info would be greatly appreciated thanks,
Shawn

 

Are you actually seriious?

 

I'll be first in line for that V10 if you're giving it away

The 460 was never put in the Superduty. So, motor mounts, tranny, etc, will all have to be custom mounted (well, the E4OD will fit the stock tranny mount maybe).

Why do you want to give up 14-15MPG on the highway for 8-9 that the 460 will get you? Not to mention that a stock 460 won't put out the torque the V10 does. And if you modify the 460, all that power is going to be far enough up the powerband that it'll be useless in a truck.

If you think the ECM runs the windows, good luck with your project. I know that sounds very dismissive, but ... what did you expect?

 

Yeah, I thought about a 351 W also but not sure what I want to do, I'm getting sick of blowing out plugs with the v10, not to mention they don't make any aftermarket heads for it. I would rebuild it to get more torque and power out of it but not really sure if it's worth it. I was looking into things and I am not even thinking about a 460 anymore being that I want more low end torque. 10" of lift, 38 inch tires it whats going on with all this so I'm going to need more power, gearing etc...I was also thinking of supercharging the v10....there's alot of way's I can go with this and it seems like keeping the v10 is the way to go.

 

A cure-all for blown plugs is just to do inserts in all 10 holes.

The 2-valve V10 can benefit from some extra breathing and creative intake runner tuning, just look at the 3-valver.

A blower is probably the best bet. You can rebuild the V10 using V8 forged rods, pistons, etc, port the heads, and strap on a blower.

 

Why would you want a 460 I have had 2 of them one carburated and the other EFI both very very heavy on fuel. My 8300lb truck got at best 8mpg it was prolly more like 6 with the EFI 460.

My cousin has a F-250 4x4 with 40" Swampers the truck is 460 powered the truck burns 1500 dollars in gas running to Alaska and back which is about 2 days of driving each way.

Stick with the V-10 or if you want diesel do a Cummins conversion (I can't believe I said that) and see if you can squeeze 400hp out of a 12 valve.

 

Let me get this str8... you want to pull a V10 and you are looking for more power and thought about a 351w????? huh?

 

I'm thinking you'll get more out of the 2.3L. That's a crazy little torque monster right there! lol.

RP
Zach

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

 

mrsillman

Welcome to the best forum on the web... sorry my fellow v10 brothers are a tad harsh but I think part of your plan is not too bad... I have suggested to several of the 99 SuperDuty guys that wanted to morph a 310 HP or event eh 362 HP into their older SuperDuty trucks that they might be better off stuffing an old skool High HP crate motor in

I was not talking a off the shelf factory rebuild 460 but rather a race ready high HP and Hight torque pro built crate motor

Of course this is not for a daily driver working TRUCK... this is for the poser suburb dude who is all about having a clean looking a bad *** ride.... 560 HP and 625 Ft Lbs in a clean looking SuperDuty is certainly very high on the cool side of tire smoking fun....

But if you simply are tired of the blown plugs and thought a swap in of a factory 460 was the cure.... well they all said it up above... you loose much more then you gain... $300-$480 can fix the plug blow out permanently with a Timesert in each hole....

 

I think that is a good idea to go with a pushrod motor like the 7.5L 460. I would think a few donor trucks can be found, but I would go for the '94-'97 years with EFI. With a donor truck...you can take all the wiring and PCM stuff you will need. Plus you have the reliable factor of EFI.

Or, you could always go with an I6 FORD motor too. That would look pretty cool. If you go carb, then no need for the electronics of a PCM. Build it up...and do not leave it stock. Would have to re-gear too. But might get decent mileage...and that engine is a work horse...as most I6 engines are.

Last but not least (as mentioned above); you could go with a Cummins 5.9L conversion. I have seen a few here in ABQ...and they look sweet! But cost is definitely a consideration here.

IMHO, I would find a donor SD truck from '02 or '03. Get the PCM and wiring and install a 310hp 425 ft/lbs V10. The tranny and all other accessories is the same. This makes for a reliable work/travel truck...and the benefit of those extra ponies under the hood. Once you have it up and running...take it to your friendly local dealer and have them install the latest PCM flash for that PCM.

Good luck!

biz

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2003 F250 SD SC 142" XLT FX4 V10 Auto 4x4 3.73s

 

I would be putting a crate engine in and it would have around 450hp and over 450 fpt.....so that's the deal with wanting to put a crate engine in.

 

Because the 415 CI V10 is a much more efficient motor and does not require any special care n feeding

The 460 CI was a great motor in it's time but was a notorious fuel hog and demanded much more attention if it was used very hard... intake leaks, exhaust cracks, rear main seal leaks etc....

Your reason for going backward ( fear of blown plugs) is not rational

As I said above: If your desire was to get tire shredding HP and Torque and you accept that the truth is the V10 is not a very hot rod-able motor then your choice is to morph in some "other" motor that is built to the hilt out of the box...in other words a full race "crate motor"

If you think that a typical "rebuilt Ford 460" is going to do this for you ...then you are going to be badly disappointed

I built up a few 460s and can assure you the head work, the cam, and the intake modifications can easily get into the $3000 dollar range and in the end you still have a very strong motor that does not live well or long above 5500 RPM... trust me I loved that motor but in the final analysis I use trucks to be trucks and the pure truth is that for the last 5 years the BEST TRUCK motor on the market is the Ford V10.... But I do freely admit that if I was building a short bed street sleeper bad asses fire breathing head turner... It would be V8 BB all the way!

 

Go to www.fordcummins.com and check it out!!!!

 

darn man if your that seroius use a blown 5.4 from a lighting. at least you can get ready made parts to make it work

 

Cap's always got the answer