57 dizzy into a 55 yBlock problems
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57 dizzy into a 55 yBlock problems
Guys,
Help me if you can.I have a 54 f100 with a 55 239(EBV 6015) and loadamatic dizzy. I bought a 57 rebuilt dizzy(for a 272) from Advance Auto to put into this motor. The end of the shaft that drives the oil pump is different. The 55 dizzy has a male end and the 57 a female end. My son-in-law ,at the Ford dealer, says the shafts cannot be swapped. I can't post pictures but I can email pictures to show what I mean. What am I doing wrong! I am going to post this on the 54 truck forum as well. Thanks in advance for any and all that can help with this.
Mike
Help me if you can.I have a 54 f100 with a 55 239(EBV 6015) and loadamatic dizzy. I bought a 57 rebuilt dizzy(for a 272) from Advance Auto to put into this motor. The end of the shaft that drives the oil pump is different. The 55 dizzy has a male end and the 57 a female end. My son-in-law ,at the Ford dealer, says the shafts cannot be swapped. I can't post pictures but I can email pictures to show what I mean. What am I doing wrong! I am going to post this on the 54 truck forum as well. Thanks in advance for any and all that can help with this.
Mike
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In the EBV you have to use a later oil pump & drive that will mate with the late dizzy. There are 2 EBV versions, unfortunately you got the orphan! My 54 F350 had the correct 239 to make it a quick swap.
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So what do I buy, a 55 239 oil pump or a 272 oil pump? I thought all the EBV's were built in Cleveland and interchangable. I know 54's were split between Dearborn and Cleveland and not completely compatable. So I have an early version EBV ? Just how bad of a job is changing the oil pump and is it totally accessable outside of the motor?
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Id start by owning a shop manual.
Pumps are all external, any 272/292/312 pump will work. The later pump uses a 14 tooth drive gear as does the later dizzy so it runs at a 1:1 ratio. You also need the later intermediate shaft to complete the swap; again any later engine is the same.
Pumps are all external, any 272/292/312 pump will work. The later pump uses a 14 tooth drive gear as does the later dizzy so it runs at a 1:1 ratio. You also need the later intermediate shaft to complete the swap; again any later engine is the same.
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Yeah, the oil pump drive change is (more or less) irrelevant to the Cleveland-Dearborn build issue, though it is confusing & I could see why you would think that. What....Ford engines & part interchanges, confusing?? Who'da thunk? 
It's a fairly easy job to swap pumps, a couple of hours for both pump & dizzy. A shop manual will do wonders towards removing misery & woe from this job. As 286 notes, any late pump will do fine.
It's a fairly easy job to swap pumps, a couple of hours for both pump & dizzy. A shop manual will do wonders towards removing misery & woe from this job. As 286 notes, any late pump will do fine.
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Im in Pelham.
Good luck with the swap, at least there is plenty of room to get at things. My truck is a 54 F350, I have to climb in and sit on the inner fenders!
Even more fun when working on a friends mini fleet of F600 to 800's.
Good luck with the swap, at least there is plenty of room to get at things. My truck is a 54 F350, I have to climb in and sit on the inner fenders!
Even more fun when working on a friends mini fleet of F600 to 800's.
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286Merc,
That's pretty funny. I'm in Pelham also. I'm from PA and we had a 53 F600 on our farm. Thanks again for the info!
That's pretty funny. I'm in Pelham also. I'm from PA and we had a 53 F600 on our farm. Thanks again for the info!
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