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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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400 won't start

I have a 78 F250 that has a transplanted 400 out of a 71 Galaxie 500. After installing the engine we started it and it would run which was a relief to me. Fuel pump was bad so I replaced it. After 2 days it wouldn't start at all. I only started and ran the motor twice and that was long enough to get in the shop and back out. I have fire at the distributor and the plugs. I am not sure if I have the plug wires in the right spot on the cap due to not being able to read the harmonic balancer. When it ran before it was never smooth and ran very roughly. Any ideas would help.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Should have a 1 or a mark by connector one on the cap. After that the firing order is 1,3,7,2,6,5,4,8. Check the timing. Has it been sitting? The carb might also be the problem. Easiest would be a swap to a running one.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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I will check the cap tomorrow. The motor was sitting for 7-8 years in my friends grandma's car. Only has 60,000 miles on the motor. Carb seems to be good.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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If the fuel pump went out your fuel filter may have pieces of the old pump inside of it. Check for flow coming out of your filter, or just replace it just because. Next time you get it to fire, let it run for 10 seconds or so then shut it off. Feel your exhaust manifold and see if all the pipes are warm - a cold pipe means a dead cylinder.
You could also pour a LITTLE fuel into the mouth of the carb and see if it tries to run, if it does then you know it's a fuel issue.
If the car was running when it was parked then the timing should still be close at least.
I wouldn't move it just yet.
Check for dry rot on vacuum lines also, and check for rodent damage.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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I will check those things tomorrow and get back with you. Thanks
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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All theplug wires are in the right place. Filter is clean and tried putting fuel into carb with no luck. I did notice today that the fire in my distributor does seem weak. This is a points style ignition, could it be the condenser or weak coil????
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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The points will rot just from sitting. Cap, wires, rotors, points and condensor, plugs are normal to replace on a moth-balled power plant. The valves also might be kinda marginal, run a compression check while you got the plugs out. Some were open while it sat and who knows what the faces and seats look like now. A can of risolone or whatever in the oil might help free up some lifters, if they are not fully pumping up. GL
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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I put new cap, rotor, wires and points on. Didn't change the condensor yet due to a stripped out screw. Pulled plugs and they looked fine.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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I went through a similar deal on a 460. Sounded bad at first but after it came up to temperature i shut it off. Started it again and a big improvement. I think a hydraulic lifter needed to pump up.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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You should check the resistance of the primary and secondary windings of the coil. What is your points gap set at?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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I checked on the electrical forum for coil resistance specs and checked it. The coil is bad I believe due to not having the resistor wire between the ignition switch and the coil. (removed all of the wiring harness before I knew this was needed) Does anyone know what the resistance should be between them?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Just to update all. I put a new coil and resistor on and she fired right up. Had a little miss until it warmed up, but then it smoothed right out. Thanks for the help.
 
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