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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Have been browsing the posts about bio-diesel. After all the equipment for the truck (if your not going to invest in the manafacturing side), Bio being sold at a higher cost at the pump than #2. It is way more expensive to run bio. Why should I use it? Seems to me there are people out there that are promoting this stuff as the next best thing to sliced bread (and oh by the way, they'll sell you home depot gathered items as a complete system for $$$$$$$$$). And no I don not have the time to do it myself. So i think i'll stick (slave) to the big oil companies. Supply and demand...................mmmmmmmmm.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by westtntrucker
Have been browsing the posts about bio-diesel. After all the equipment for the truck (if your not going to invest in the manafacturing side), Bio being sold at a higher cost at the pump than #2. It is way more expensive to run bio. Why should I use it? Seems to me there are people out there that are promoting this stuff as the next best thing to sliced bread (and oh by the way, they'll sell you home depot gathered items as a complete system for $$$$$$$$$). And no I don not have the time to do it myself. So i think i'll stick (slave) to the big oil companies. Supply and demand...................mmmmmmmmm.
Ok enjoy, I for one will run WVO and spend my money on good beer.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Heres a letter from Stanadyne Corp on the subject of biodiesel http://www.biodiesel.org/markets/pre/resolution.pdf

Also you don't have to make biodiesel. Go to www.biodiesel.org look under buying biodiesel, go to retail map, click on your state. Hopefully you have one close. Or if you have bulk storage you can have it delivered as I do to the farm. Costs only 2 cents more than #2.
 

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by westtntrucker
Have been browsing the posts about bio-diesel. After all the equipment for the truck (if your not going to invest in the manafacturing side), Bio being sold at a higher cost at the pump than #2. It is way more expensive to run bio. Why should I use it? Seems to me there are people out there that are promoting this stuff as the next best thing to sliced bread (and oh by the way, they'll sell you home depot gathered items as a complete system for $$$$$$$$$). And no I don not have the time to do it myself. So i think i'll stick (slave) to the big oil companies. Supply and demand...................mmmmmmmmm.
Why should I use bio-diesel instead of #2?

Let me count the ways

1. It lubes better than #2 with an additive and much much better than the soon to come Ultra Low Sulphur diesel.

2. Lower emissions especially CO2 (a green house gas) than #2.

3. Your money is going to support local farmers rather than some terrorist.

4. The exhaust smells better so your neighbors wont complain so much.

5. If you do make it yourself you can save about $2 per gal, at current pump prices
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by westtntrucker
Have been browsing the posts about bio-diesel. After all the equipment for the truck (if your not going to invest in the manafacturing side), Bio being sold at a higher cost at the pump than #2. It is way more expensive to run bio. Why should I use it? Seems to me there are people out there that are promoting this stuff as the next best thing to sliced bread (and oh by the way, they'll sell you home depot gathered items as a complete system for $$$$$$$$$). And no I don not have the time to do it myself. So i think i'll stick (slave) to the big oil companies. Supply and demand...................mmmmmmmmm.
The last Biodiesel I purchased was in Bend Oregon. $3.11 for B99 and strait diesel was $3.19.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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the bio i bought a couple weeks ago was 9 cents less then #2 what a great deal and it runs like a top on it also I love it
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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What % did you get and I bet it smells better.
 

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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I dont know if i read it right but you do not have to spend a penny on truck modifications to run biodiesel. Also i get up to a $3600 write off by producing an alt fuel for personal use, $1 per gallon up to 3600 gallons. it's the right thing to do!!!!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FLASH 13
I dont know if i read it right but you do not have to spend a penny on truck modifications to run biodiesel. Also i get up to a $3600 write off by producing an alt fuel for personal use, $1 per gallon up to 3600 gallons. it's the right thing to do!!!!
Is that a State or Federal program. That should cover your cost pretty much exactly maybe even make a profit. How accurate do you have to be, how would they know if you made 5 gallons or 3600 gallons.

Do you then also have to pay the road tax. I think most states wave so much per year before you have to pay taxes.


As for modding the vehicle your right, no mod needed to run bio. But if you live in a cold climate you will need to mix it with something or find a way to heat it from what I here when it gets cold.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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the bio i used was b20 i believe and yes it does smell good
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FLASH 13
I dont know if i read it right but you do not have to spend a penny on truck modifications to run biodiesel.
This correct. I run B20 from my fuel supplier (meets ASDM specs)year round in all my farm equipment and on road vehicles by just pumping from my storage tank into everything with no mods.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FLASH 13
I dont know if i read it right but you do not have to spend a penny on truck modifications to run biodiesel. Also i get up to a $3600 write off by producing an alt fuel for personal use, $1 per gallon up to 3600 gallons. it's the right thing to do!!!!

wow, great information ThANK YOU!!!!!!

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p378/ch07.html
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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I guess the irs will figure out that 3600 gallons is a lot for a 1 truck family. but i will push it to the limit. My truck is way over mileage so i can fudge it a bit. Also no road tax because i'm not selling, PERSONAL use only. I figure at my tax bracket my biomaker will be paid off sooner than later.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Why is it so darn expensive?

I used a link here to find biodiesel close to me. The only place I found turned out to be only a couple of blocks from my restaurant. They're selling B100, but now I'm not sure if I have any desire to try it since it's almost 35 cents more per gallon then the #2 right next to my house.


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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Think of it this way. When the ultra low sulfur diesel hits the market sometime this summer. You will have to decide on on one of the three choices.
1. Use at least 2% biodiesel for lubrication in your 7.3
2. Use additives to do the same
3. Don't use anything and take the risk of having to replace the IP due to very poor lubrication.

Myself I opted for #1 at the 20% level.
 

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