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Old Nov 19, 2000 | 11:08 PM
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How many different $ speed trans where made in 69? And what were they called? I am looking at putting one in my 69 when things are said and done. Just want to keep my eyes open.

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Old Nov 25, 2000 | 12:03 PM
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I believe that the four speed options were:

Warner T-18
Warner T-19
New Process 435

I have a T-18 and a 435 and they are both good transmissions. The T-18 shifts easier for me but the 435 feels more "solid".
 
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Old Nov 25, 2000 | 01:31 PM
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Thanks for the reply!

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Old Feb 1, 2001 | 01:13 AM
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This is what I got in my first ford pick-up; 69 stepside, headers, smokestacks (that come up out of the "steps"), some kind of 289 that smokes (valveguides?)
3 spd with a hurst floor shifter. When I get into doing more mechanical work, I'd like a 4-spd tranny, for the sake of better highway driving. the rearrend is a 3.7 I believe. What tranny should I use in your opinions? I have no problem with the power of my 289. I cant believe how much fun I am having working on this old truck. Thanks for your suggestions.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2001 | 06:29 AM
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I have a rather simple question.

As fas as gear ratios, does the 4 speed just allow you to bang through more gears and reach a final drive ratio of 1:1.
Because the 3 speed's final drive ratio is 1:1 also, correct.
In fact the advantage to the four speed is not better highway miles (a lower final ratio), but rather more power (like when carring a load or towing a car).
No I'm not referring to the overdrive units, just the regular ones avaliable for that era (even though overdrive had been invented).

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Old Feb 1, 2001 | 07:22 AM
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If its not an OD tranny then yes you just have move gears to get you to 1:1. This gives you shorter gears which can be beneficial if you do a lot of city/town driving (faster acceleration) but won't be of any great benefit to highway driving. To get better MPH on the highway you need either an OD tranny or go to a higher speed rearend but with the higher speed rearend, what you gain on the highway you'll lose in town.

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Old Feb 1, 2001 | 11:47 AM
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I don't know about all NP 435s, but mine has pretty low gearing. The 1st (granny gear) allows me to crawl slower than a snail, especially in 4-Lo.

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Old Feb 6, 2001 | 01:44 AM
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I have a 77 F-150 with the 4 speed granny. I was wondering, for street use would it be possible (and how practical) to refit the gearing in the tranny by removing the granny gear, dropping everything so my second is now first and adding an OD gear where fourth was?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2001 | 01:59 AM
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I was wondering if you could change the rear end ratio and still have enough torque to go anywhere while using the granny gear. I don't even use my granny gear, the oper. manual suggests starting out in second gear. I'm not that good with the numbers but what would be the lowest (or highest) ratio that I could go, without adding too much stress and strain to the engine?

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Old Feb 7, 2001 | 02:08 PM
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 07-Feb-01 AT 03:10 PM (EST)[/font][p]I have a question on this subject. Well, I have a 49 F-1 on a 1973 4x4 chasis. and well I have the process 435 tranny. But the thing is geared so low that it tachs out at about 4500 doing 65 on the freeway. Anyone have any ideas as to what the gear ratio could be? I am currently building a 454 with Turbo 400 Tranny to drop in it. I have been told to pull the cover off and count the teeth on the gears to get an exact count. I do know that it is Dana 60 Front and rear.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2001 | 06:23 PM
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Bud if you are going to put those ******* parts in you Ford truck, it's time for you to move on. This is a hard core Ford blue oval truck site. That kind of junk action aint welcome here.

Consider this friendly advice.

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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 10:53 AM
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 08-Feb-01 AT 11:54 AM (EST)[/font][p]Well you still didnt answer my question. I am a diehard Ford Truck fan. But, I got to be honest here. I cant stand Ford motors. Its gonna cost me about 2500 bucks to build up this 454 and turbo 400. It would cost about 2500 to rebuild the 390 I have. Anyway, I'm not gonna trash on Ford motors its just a matter of preference and price. I was thinking about buying some new headers and a Intake for my truck. ( for the 390 ) and well it would cost me triple what it would cost me to buy them for the 454 so I'm junking the 390. Parts are just too damn expensive for it. There is nothing wrong with a Ford truck powered by a nice chevy motor and tranny. I will have the best of both worlds. Well, my question was. Does anyone know what the gearing would be on something like this? Like I said my truck will only go about 65mph and tachs out at about 4500 grand on the freeway. Just was curious about what the gearing might be. I'm thinking 4.10s but am unsure. Lets not crap on Chevy engines please. I come to this site for advice and to check out all the nice Fords. Because I happen to own 2 of them. But in one package.

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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 11:18 AM
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I'll bet you could put a T-10 behind it and if that works then a Top Loader should be able to hook up. It may not be a direct bolt up with the bell housing that fits a T18, but I've drilled holes in a bell housing for a 3 spd, that had the bosses for other trannys cast on it and mounted a T10 to it.

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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 06:09 PM
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 08-Feb-01 AT 07:14 PM (EST)[/font][p]Yee-hah, go John! To quote 50yellowbeast: "There is nothing wrong with a Ford truck powered by a nice chevy motor and tranny". What the hell? First of all, it wouldn't be "powered" it would be "impaired" and secondly "nice" and "chivy" don't belong in the same sentence. Hey, my EX-wife drove chivys, during which I drove them and worked on them. I'm not just blowing steam due to brand loyalty but due to honestly earned dislike of an inferior product. That said, sorry I don't know the answer to your question but good luck.

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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 06:30 PM
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