Ford Vs Chevrolet
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From: Southern Alberta
Fords last, Chebbys rust. Especially the 67-79 versions.
I have seen so many old Fords unrestored and neglected, still in daily use as work trucks from those years, it is unreal. Hard to find any Chebbys at all... unrestored that is.
One advantage of owning a Chebby tho. The junkyards are jam-packed full of them, you can get any part for one you can imagine, cheap.
I have seen so many old Fords unrestored and neglected, still in daily use as work trucks from those years, it is unreal. Hard to find any Chebbys at all... unrestored that is.
One advantage of owning a Chebby tho. The junkyards are jam-packed full of them, you can get any part for one you can imagine, cheap.
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From: Hudson Florida.
For me, in the compact pickup lines, I've had some pretty crappy experience with an 02 S10. it was/is the truck from hell. now in 3/4 ton trucks, I've driven a fairly nice Chevy 2500 with the 5.7 and TH700 tranny, quite a nice work truck, no major problems or anything.
in Ford, I had an 83 Ranger, only problems I ever really had was the constant oil leak, and the fuel pump died on me once, oh yeah and a battery cable. other than that, it was one of my ALL TIME favorite trucks. would I buy another? in a heartbeat, no questions asked.
Doesnt matter what brand you buy, theres a lot of good ones, and some that are just nightmares from the get go. every brand is like this, Ford, Dodge, Chevy etc.
in Ford, I had an 83 Ranger, only problems I ever really had was the constant oil leak, and the fuel pump died on me once, oh yeah and a battery cable. other than that, it was one of my ALL TIME favorite trucks. would I buy another? in a heartbeat, no questions asked.
Doesnt matter what brand you buy, theres a lot of good ones, and some that are just nightmares from the get go. every brand is like this, Ford, Dodge, Chevy etc.
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From: Oak Harbor, OH
Because Chevy does a better job of covering it up. The '99 thru '02 trucks had a serious piston slap issue, the early d-max/allison combo had a software glitch where under load the trans would drop to first at higways speeds and detonate the engine, they are out there. You just almost have to work for a dealer to find out about them.. The early 229 (3.8) and 4.3 engines had crank and cam issues. I think that about 2 out of five chevys produced after about 1979 smoke. The 2.2 used in the late 90s and early '00 have some valvetrain issuses. I've heard several in cavis and s10s that rattle so bad they sound like a diesel at idle. These are just a few of them.
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Originally Posted by pfogle
Because Chevy does a better job of covering it up. The '99 thru '02 trucks had a serious piston slap issue, the early d-max/allison combo had a software glitch where under load the trans would drop to first at higways speeds and detonate the engine, they are out there. You just almost have to work for a dealer to find out about them.. The early 229 (3.8) and 4.3 engines had crank and cam issues. I think that about 2 out of five chevys produced after about 1979 smoke. The 2.2 used in the late 90s and early '00 have some valvetrain issuses. I've heard several in cavis and s10s that rattle so bad they sound like a diesel at idle. These are just a few of them.
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Originally Posted by MofW
This is why I love this site. You learn something new every day. Please tell us more, I've never heard of the d-max/allison problem you have discribed. Do you work at a dealer? Or did you hear about this from another source? My father-in-law is a parts manager at a Chevy dealer and I ask him all the time about the duramax as far as what they see come in and he's never seen anything like what you're talking about. A few injectors here and there but that's about it.
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The only issue with the older 4.3's was no balance shaft until 92 and the crank/cam where fine but they did have bad valve guides which also was fixed in 92. My family had 3 4.3's 88-91 all had 180-200,000 when we sold them with no problems. My 89 Ranger 2.9 went 160,000 when I sold it ran good,was much better than the 3.0 ranger.
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From: Las Vegas
Originally Posted by deltasoft
how come i havent heard of big issues with engines on chevys like we are hearing with all these recalls for ford?
Please school us on "all these recalls for Ford"..........otherwise, this post (and the whole thread) is very troll like.
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From: Georgia
Yes deltasoft please do school us. I can tell you one reason you don't hear of many recalls from Gm. They put out a technical service bulletin that said using a quart of oil in 2000 miles was normal for an unloaded vehicle. In reality they should have recalled those engines that had pistonslap. The trouble was if they would have recalled that many engines there would no longer be a chevy to compare ford to.
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they put out a technical service bulletin that said using a quart of oil in 2000 miles was normal for an unloaded vehicle.
Don't check the Service manual on the PSD then... (1quart for 1100miles if I recall correct)
Don't check the Service manual on the PSD then... (1quart for 1100miles if I recall correct)
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From: Running Springs CA
Ringo, 67-72 Fords rusted so badly that there are almost none left here on the left coast, while there are still plenty of that vintage GM trucks around. 73-on the opposite is true. GM started using water-based paint at the Fremont plant in 1973 and the results were awful for a few of years while they perfected it. Rusting issues are different here because they dont salt the roads. Coastal humidity tends to rust from the top down instead of from the ground up.
I also notice plenty of early 80's Rangers and Toyotas still on the road and almost no surviving S-series GM, Datsun/Nissan, Mitsubishi/Dodge, etc.
Jim
I also notice plenty of early 80's Rangers and Toyotas still on the road and almost no surviving S-series GM, Datsun/Nissan, Mitsubishi/Dodge, etc.
Jim