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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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B2 starter problems

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Today, our B2 died while we were getting fuel. Went to start it and only got a "clink" I checked the obvious things cleaning the battery terminals, checking the connections on the relay and checking the tightness of the cable on the starter and nothing. One strange thing is the battery cables get really hot when I try to start it. The positive cable was actually smoking it was so hot. Any ideas??

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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Blown engine. Seems like somthing gave way inside the motor, and broke and binded everything up. Now the motor is not going to rotate, which is why you dont hear the starter turning over the engine. The reason the cable gets hot is becuase the start motor isnt moving cuasing a very high amp draw. If you cant get the motor to rotate at all, id suggest droping the pan and looking in the crankcase....that will really tell you what happened.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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More than likely, the starter is hung because the bendix won't retract. Easy solution is to tap the starter with a small ball peen hammer and then try it. If it turns over and starts up and the starter stays engaged... shut it down and replace the bendix or starter, if you don't feel like taking the starter apart. The other culprit could be that the brushes are gone in the starter motor. If it got really bad, then you'll have to replace the starter or take yours to a shop and have it rebuilt. I had a similar problem, so to speak, but it was just making noise and came to find out my starter bolts had backed out. OH, and if it was a 5-spd and you push started it just fine... and you heard a sound like the starter was still engaged for a couple of seconds, then, the bendix is hung for sure Hope this helps
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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I would supect that, but I dont get why it died ,then didnt start....

Dose it stall out from idling alot?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Update,

I have 13+ volts at the battery, so I went thur and cleaned all the connections. Same results. Before I dropped the starter, I "jumped" the relay. The motor turned over, very slow. After I stopped, I could hear the started still trying to rotate, and the engine creeping around. I disconnected the battery and dropped the starter. I am going to get it checked out and replaced if needed, along with all new cables. I will report back later.

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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Thats good, if the motor is rotating then that throws my blown engine theory out the window.

My friends ranger was doing the same thing (bad-cables/half dead battery) gave the same click/clunk your talking about. Your starter may be giving out though, sence were droping the trans on his ranger, we removed the starter, and noticed the cover on the starter had a rust hole in it. Im sure if it went unnoticed for a while the starter motor would be shot from water and dirt entering the motor. I would check to see if thats starting to happen and cover it if your starter isnt fried yet.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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the sater in that car is prone to hanging up in the flywheel and blowing apart. pull it out and get a r/b . change both battery cables esp. the short one from the battery to the solinode. make a new 10 gauge wire from the solinode down to the starter if it has one. odds are a lot of corr. in the very begining of the cables . claen the ground cable connection at the block very well also.
a motor blowing up after it was running good before it was shot off? what mechanics school did you go to? not a good one thats for sure.
ford was always prone to starters hanging up. esp the earlier ones . the drive sticks the starter over spone and bam its bad doing what the man says to the t bone.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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If it was still trying to start after you broke the connection you probably have a bad starter solenoid. It could be responsible for killing your starter. This has happened to me on my old '77 F150 a couple of times.
If you are going to the trouble and expense to replace the starter, change out that solenoid too.

Good luck
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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77 had a different starter motor.on that one the contacts would stick that throws the drive out. bother owns a rebuild shop out here.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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I had a problem like that once, I bought a starter selenoid, and something was messed up and it made my wires get smoking hot...I'd try changing the selenoid...there only like 8.00 at auto zone.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Yeah, Fords also have issues with the starter solenoids that can cause problems too. I would check both and replace cables while I was at it. I had forgotten to add this to my previous post... OOPS
 
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