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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Help it's not a Chevy

First of all great site.

does anyone have schematics or a diagram on how to assemble the front end of my 1970 390. I have been rebuilding chevy's for many years but need some assistance on the front of this motor. There are a few more parts like cam retainer, fuel pump actuator and an outer spacer for the crenk. I am trying to make sure I have all the parts and assemble it correctly.

For $200 I got a block, perfect crank, and a rebuilt tranny. The heads where rebuilt and the block was decked honed and ready for assembly.
I wish i could figure out how to put the damn front end together since I didnt unassemble it I dont know how it goes back together. If you give me a Chevy I could put it back together in my sleep. Cam retainers, fuel pump stuff extra spacer around the crank where the hell does it go. And above all why didnt a pin come with my ISKY cam now I have to find one of those


Thanks for all your help in advance, Jim
 
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Try here for pics of how things go.

http://www.gessford.com/images/352-390Parts&pics.htm
 
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Welcome to FTE Sutphen77, first of all you came to the right place for your info, the guys here are a great help. 2nd you shouldn't use the C word here... just kidding. You should have what you need with link offered by Bear if not post back.

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Thanks for the welcome Mad anf a special thanks to 45/70 that was exactly what I needed. I am glad I didnt put it together I see I am missing a few pieces.


Thank you all for your help, Jim
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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thanks to 45/70 I see I need part numbers 6700-6310 and 358963-5. I am glad I just didnt start putting the thing together.

Thanks 45/70, next time you are in the Southwest Florida area let me know
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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is part number 6265 (spacer camshaft gear or sprocket) needed. In the parts list page 9 is sayes do not use with C8AZ-6256A. Page 9 is alo atteched

Sorry for the large pics I don't know how to re-size

 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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If you are running cam C8AZ-6256-A then no, otherwise yes unless your cam manufacture says otherwise in their instructions. A way to tell is the the cam lobs should be centered in the lifter bores when the front of the cam is against the cam retainer. If they are to far forward then you need the spacer.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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i've never seen that spacer before in any of the FE's i've rebuilt. i don't believe any of the modern cam makers assume the use of that, so any cam you buy new won't need it.. JMO
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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I have and if the cam needs it you better have it or you will eat lifter as the get on the edge of the cam lobe. Most of the older FEs from the mid 60s thru the early 70s had them from the factory.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Most of the older FEs from the mid 60s thru the early 70s had them from the factory.
I never noticed, learn something new each day.. of course, I admit i've never actually looked for one either, they may have been stuck to the end of the original stick..
 
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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I dont think I need it because the aftermarket timing gear has the spacer as part of gear itself.


Thanks for all your help, I just need to locate part number 6310, do you have any idea where I could find one of these

 
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Thats called an oil slinger and I would assume the Ford parts man could get you one.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Thats called an oil slinger and I would assume the Ford parts man could get you one.

"ASSUME" being the word. I called a few ford dealerships and I got every excuse from "our books dont go back that far" to "what is an oil slinger"

once again 45 you have been a world of help, thank you for everything. If I had a closeup picture I might attempt to make one


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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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It's always fun to make An *** of U and ME when I start assuming. But then again the local Ford dealer here has been in business for 70+ years and finds me things like the FE windage tray which haven't been in an engine since the last 60s. Me thinks your local dealers are lazy.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Hell the FE motor was out of production before those young Ford employees were born. All the good dealer mechanics with knowledge of FE's are retired or dead by now.

.....=o&o>.....
 
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