04 turbo failures
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04 turbo failures
04 turbo failures 3 in 12000 miles. Does anyone know of something to look for to fix the problem. Ford will not buy back only replace as many as needed in the 100000 mile warranty Know others that have replaced 6 or more This is a service truck that we cannot use for fear of breakdowns far from home at late hours.
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No idling. Truck has short idles before turn off . Bought truck in 05 had 16 months. Truck not been used as much becase crews dont want to break down as they travel at night as well as day. Only got less than 1000 miles on last one .These questions have been asked already. Engineers have spent much time trying to figure this out. Truck also only gets 8mpg even when it was chassis only. Did not change even when bed and load put on. We have had diesels for years . Even got 600000 miles on a 89 model. We just cannot come up with any reason for this problem.
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Any particular part going bad in the turbos? Is it no boost? Smoking? Noise? If the vehicle sits for extended periods not used, moisture from the previous use can cause the vanes to rust in place. Are they not using turbos that have the machined in recess to prevent stuck vanes? It may be as simple as having someone once a week take the vehicle out and run the snot out of it.
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They put a short trip turbo I think thats what they called it. We have had power loss , no boost only run about 15mph. noise and smoke during failure. It even on one blew the cooler. I have asked if there was a better turbo on the market we could get. If it sweats would not the short idle before shutdown eliminate this. We drive 70mph and higher on the interstste and around 60 avg. We have drove different ways trying to get better milage. Also have blown off hoses at first change. Asked about upgrades also.
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Less than 1,000 miles on one of them. Ouch! Understandable frustration.
vloney has much knowledge, maybe if you can get some e-mail / P.M. s going, he can help you out. 3-turbos in 12,000 miles is mind boggling.
vloney has much knowledge, maybe if you can get some e-mail / P.M. s going, he can help you out. 3-turbos in 12,000 miles is mind boggling.
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I think you've got something going on other than just the turbo. They appear to be fixing the symptoms, but not correcting the problem. If you are overboosting,and blowing coolers, I would look at pcm control of the vgt,ebp,map,maf. There is something going on that they are overlooking.
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Thjanks I will relay to my dealer for them to check and see if they did. Thanks for your help. I will let you know what I find.
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Im just curious on what constitutes a "turbo failure"? Is it the veins inside the turbo, or something else? I understand that a loss of boost is a sign, but what other signs do you get?
Thanks alot,
Carlos J.
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Black smoke . no mph. loud boom , destruction of cooler, had blown off hose before, loud noise like in engine whining. Could the computer be bad, because tow haul does not work continuously, goes and comes, supposed to work like jake brake on downhill, sometimes does then does not on same percent of incline. Byu the way since they just put the last turbo on , I heard it kick in the first time scince I have had truck.
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third turbo here on my 2005
guess we are in the same club,, my 2005 F350 KR with 21,000 miles just got its third turbo as well as the third set of Contnetinals all paid for by Ford,, vanes stuck on the first turbo and they could not free them,, vanes just failed to operate on the second one,, also have had three EGRS replaced,,
as for tires the first set had hard spots in them and felt like rideing on a rough street all the time,, second set started seperating near the bead with cracks in the rubber the full circumference,,
we tow a 5th wheel and about 60% of that mileage is tugging the fiver,, last turbo went out in the Georga mountains heading North with the fiver hooked on,, truck overheated and we had to pull over as we could not pull the hills,, a real POS,,
don't think Ford will have the chance to contine replacing equipment just because the truck has a 100K warranty,, BS on that, I need something I can count on supporting me when we travel,, this tuck is surely not the answer,,
as for tires the first set had hard spots in them and felt like rideing on a rough street all the time,, second set started seperating near the bead with cracks in the rubber the full circumference,,
we tow a 5th wheel and about 60% of that mileage is tugging the fiver,, last turbo went out in the Georga mountains heading North with the fiver hooked on,, truck overheated and we had to pull over as we could not pull the hills,, a real POS,,
don't think Ford will have the chance to contine replacing equipment just because the truck has a 100K warranty,, BS on that, I need something I can count on supporting me when we travel,, this tuck is surely not the answer,,
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Originally Posted by Tuggingafiver
guess we are in the same club,, my 2005 F350 KR with 21,000 miles just got its third turbo as well as the third set of Contnetinals all paid for by Ford,, vanes stuck on the first turbo and they could not free them,, vanes just failed to operate on the second one,, also have had three EGRS replaced,,
as for tires the first set had hard spots in them and felt like rideing on a rough street all the time,, second set started seperating near the bead with cracks in the rubber the full circumference,,
we tow a 5th wheel and about 60% of that mileage is tugging the fiver,, last turbo went out in the Georga mountains heading North with the fiver hooked on,, truck overheated and we had to pull over as we could not pull the hills,, a real POS,,
don't think Ford will have the chance to contine replacing equipment just because the truck has a 100K warranty,, BS on that, I need something I can count on supporting me when we travel,, this tuck is surely not the answer,,
as for tires the first set had hard spots in them and felt like rideing on a rough street all the time,, second set started seperating near the bead with cracks in the rubber the full circumference,,
we tow a 5th wheel and about 60% of that mileage is tugging the fiver,, last turbo went out in the Georga mountains heading North with the fiver hooked on,, truck overheated and we had to pull over as we could not pull the hills,, a real POS,,
don't think Ford will have the chance to contine replacing equipment just because the truck has a 100K warranty,, BS on that, I need something I can count on supporting me when we travel,, this tuck is surely not the answer,,
There aren't any mountains in Georgia... LOL... Well if this makes you feel any better, I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO....LOL...
On a serious note, I owned an 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD. Yes Ford has had a horrible time with the turbos and fuel system in the 6.0, but Dodge's have lift pumps go out all the time, their glow plugs suck. My Stroker starts up way better in the cold then my old Ram. The 4 speed tranny shifted like an 1955 Studabaker. Everybody knows that Dodge's trannies suck. As for GMC/Chevy, I will never by one of those POS'. I hope everything gets better....
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Well folks, your Garrett turbos go to Torrance CA for the failure review. It appears Ford and Honeywell(Garrett) are fighting over a technical issue with the oil return line. When the return oil flow is restricted you get blow by and your vanes stick. Hopefully someone will correct the turbo's issues. I'm on my second with 15,000 miles.