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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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A total newbie here....I am looking for a used excursion and I am pretty sure I want the diesel......do I go for it or the V-10? I am looking for a 02-04 dependant on the price. I found the one, but it has 116K on the odo......I am so confused and in search of answers. The main reason for the Excursion is volume for 800 mile round trips with the family. I do not own anything to tow yet, but it might be a possibilty. Is the v-10 a good powerplant, is it better then the diesel, less reliable? PLUS......what reapirs can I expect on a vehicle with over 100K, what is the expectancy of the tranny? I must admit, I really want the diesel so I can do cool mods to it......thanks in advance
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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Welcome to FTE jascu2000!

You'll find everything you need to know about the Excursion and then some...

Please take the time to check out the "Read First" stickies at the top of this forum.

Onto business:

I'd like to give you a detailed reponse, but I'm nowhere near coherent now. One of the other guys will get to it, but I'll fill you in.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:56 AM
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If you can get an 02 or 03 with the last of 7.3L PSD i'd go for it.

The V10 is a great engine. I own 2 and love em. I wouldnt hesitate to buy another or recomend one to family. My F250 has 91,xxx miles and my X has 86,xxx. The only repair I have had to make on either truck was replacing the alternator on the X, went south two weeks after I bought it. Both have the 4R100 auto tranny which has been great. Expect anywhere from 9-12 mpg city and 13-16 hwy with the V10. Its all about driving style.

To me the only good thing about the 6.0L is that you get the Torque Shift five speed auto. I personnly wouldnt touch a 6.0L.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:12 AM
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Yikes, Whats wrong with the 6.0?
We have 30k on ours should we sell? No prob so far, thought it was pretty cool. Avg 20mpg. Not pulling much, the occasional rental tractor and the boat twice a year. Mostly just kids and dogs and gear.
It IS all about driving style, the wife and kids don't get as good mpg as I do.
Hey, if there is something going on with the 6.0's sure would love to know!
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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If you are interested in a diesel, go for it. My 2005 6.0 has a 100,000 mile warranty so I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what might happen. The V-10 can not do what the diesel does. The availability of bio-diesel is increasing at the retail level. You can make fuel for a diesel yourself, but unless something has changed you will never produce gasoline at home.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Can't resist. What is it that a diesel can do that a V10 cannot? Visit the dealer more often...burn oil...smoke...cost more...increase maintenance costs...cost more to fill up? I do not know and would like to be informed.

I love my V10 and would not have it any other way. Yeah some of them get better mileage, but my neighbor has a 6.0 and gets about 1-2 more MPG than I get and we drive about the same and work near each other. At 10 cents more a gallon, there is no savings in diesel now. Maybe he is just being honest.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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I didn't realize I was being dishonest, I thought I was offering a suggestion. My diesel has never been in the shop, and doesn't burn oil. According to your signature my diesel gets substantially better mileage than your V-10. Extra maintenance costs? Figure that over the life of the engine, the diesel is physically designed to last longer than your gas motor. It can efficiently pass your ride on a grade pulling a load. My last fill-up on the road in Illinois was with B-20 at $0.20 less than unleaded.

jascu2000 was looking for an opinion, and it looks as though he is getting some.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by X-Hibition
If you are interested in a diesel, go for it. My 2005 6.0 has a 100,000 mile warranty so I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what might happen. The V-10 can not do what the diesel does....
Originally Posted by igotoneforya
Can't resist. What is it that a diesel can do that a V10 cannot? Visit the dealer more often...burn oil...smoke...cost more...increase maintenance costs...cost more to fill up? I do not know and would like to be informed.

I love my V10 and would not have it any other way. Yeah some of them get better mileage, but my neighbor has a 6.0 and gets about 1-2 more MPG than I get and we drive about the same and work near each other. At 10 cents more a gallon, there is no savings in diesel now. Maybe he is just being honest.


First off, this is not going to turn into a Gas Vs. Diesel thread.

If we're going to discuss things like this, were either going to it in a civil manner or not at all.

The V10 can indeed do what the 6.0 or 7.3 can do, just quieter. When Ford designed this vehicle, they knew that there were people out there that wouldn't like the sound of a diesel. Thus, the V10, the strong silent type with power to spare. As long as the Excursion is equiped with either the 6.0, 7.3, V10 and a class IV weight distributing hitch, it has a towing capacity of 11,000 pounds. (2002 model year and up)

054x4Banks6.0MaineX, There are good 6.0s and bad ones, you seem to have a good one if you haven't had any problems thus far. If you do hit a fork in the road, the engine warranty should cover it. But to be on the safe side, I'd get a comprehensive Ford backed ESP from one of our FTE sponsors. Check out the Ford ESP and Maintenance Package threads listed below.

jascu2000, either way you go, you're getting a great power plant. It just depends on what you want. The 7.3 and 6.0 are a little more fuel efficient than the V10 simply because they're diesels. The V10 will get you between 9-12 mpg around town and 14-16mpg on the freeway, it just depends on your drving habits and what you're carrying. The 7.3 will get you about 14-15 around town and about 17-18 on the freeway stock. If you decide to add an exhaust, intake, or chip/tuner you could see 2-4 mpg more. With the V10 an intake, the Y-pipe mod, and an Aeroturbine muffler, will net you about 1-2 mpg overall, it just depends on your driving style. Either engine will safely tow up to 11,000 pounds and still have more than enough power to get out of it's own way.

Here are a couple threads that'll get you started:

Maintenance Package and Ford ESP:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=472814

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=458808

Modding on the 6.0 and 7.3

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...22#post3385922

The V10:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...29#post3436229

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...79#post3716679

Aeroturbine Muffer and Y-pipe mod:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...ht=Aeroturbine

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...ht=Aeroturbine

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...ht=Aeroturbine
 
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well done...
 
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