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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Taillight troubles

I'm trying sort out non-working brake and turn signals in the rear. I'm dead the rear bumper so I'm trying to figure out which of the plugs up by the top of steering column is the one with the lights. There are three right there - a quad and a couple of doubles. Colors are pretty faded.

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Do the front turn signals work or not? Also, do your rear park lights work?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Front turn signals do work. Rear headlights and park light is working as well.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Check the brake light switch. It is located just above the brake pedal. If this is bad it would cause your brake lights to not work, as well as your rear turn signals (all a turn signal is is your brake light blinking).

EDIT - There should be power coming off the turn signal switch going to the brake light switch. To determine if the brake light switch is bad, you could bypass it and see if you have power at the tail lights. Also, have you checked your fuses?
 

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Checked the fuses - all good.

I have the brake switch out and will check it for operation.

Thanks for the help.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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OK, power is good after the brake switch and the switch in functioning. The problem must be in the harness between the switch and the run to the back of the truck. I ordered a wiring manual from LMC but it will be a long time getting here.

There are three plugs just inside the engine comparment - a quad, a double and a single - can anyone tell me what they contain?

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Power goes from the brake switch to the turn signal switch then to the rear lights

Check the turn signal switch
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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You did check the bulbs.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Check the turn signal switch
If his front turn signals work, that means his switch does too


I'd have to check my '69 tomorrow for sure, but I think there are three wires to the rear. They would be park lights, brake/turn signal, and reverse lights. Your brake wire could be disconnected somewhere. It could also be bare and grounding out, but then I think it would blow fuses right and left.
 

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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The fuses are not blowing, I think the problem is in the harness between the switch and the connector in the engine compartment. My volt meter isn't up to the task, tomorrow I have to buy a old fashioned test lamp and make an extension so I can hook it up to the brake light and work it from the cab. Working these things alone is a real pain in the a**.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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I'm not exactly following what you're saying about the extenstions on the test light. With a test light you just hook the clip up to a good ground source and then touch the other end to a bare wire, if it lights up you have power, if not then you either don't have power or have a bad ground. Now, if you wanted to measure resistence in the wires going to the back, then yes you would need a multimeter and some extentions.

It sounds like you're on the right track though. I really hate this sort of stuff, but it is a necessary evil. In my opinion, any wiring is a PITA. Period. I just like to see that stuff finally works right!!!

EDIT - I have a few ideas of what you could try, but I want to try it on my truck first and make sure that I'm right. I'll post back tomorrow morning sometime with the info that I found.
 

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jseim44
If his front turn signals work, that means his switch does too


I'd have to check my '69 tomorrow for sure, but I think there are three wires to the rear. They would be park lights, brake/turn signal, and reverse lights. Your brake wire could be disconnected somewhere. It could also be bare and grounding out, but then I think it would blow fuses right and left.
On my 73 my front signals and rear signals worked but left brake light did not work until I replaced turnsignal switch. So my switch worked I guess to an extent . So maybe he should still check turnsignal switch?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Well, ya caught me. I'd never thought of it that way. Did you blow fuses? When my turn signal switch was bad, I couldn't keep a good fuse in it. As soon as I hit the brake pedal it blew the fuse cause my TSS was bad and it was shorting out. I also forgot that I didn't have a flasher unit so my fronts didn't work, otherwise they probably would've without my rears.

workingdog,
I guess if you wanted you could bypass all the switches by just putting power to the wire for your brake lights. This would at least eliminate bad switches, or bad wiring.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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I think I'll try that and just hook a hot wire to the downleg side of the brake swith and see what happens. That get me closer.

Peter
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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jseim44. No I didn't blow any fuses. Just had left rear brake light out, bulb was good and only could get it to come on if i messed with turnsignal lever so something was messed up in switch
 
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