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Old May 29, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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4x4 not working

I have 2001 F250 with 58,000 miles on it and the 4x4 light will come on when you turn the switch but it will not go into 4x4! One day I tried it and it wouldn't take it and I tried it later that day and it took it and today I tired it to back the boat up the hill and I couldn't get it to take it! Can anyone tell me what may be wrong with it!
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Old May 29, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Thumbs up 4x4

ESOF Hub Vacuum leak would be my bet. If you get stuck in the same situation again lock the hubs manually.

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Old May 29, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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How often do you use the 4WD? If it's been a while, the hubs may be seized up a little. Do they work if you manually lock the hubs?

Pull them off (very easy) and clean them. It's just a snapring on each hub and they pull right off. Just a pair of pliers and you're all set. Let them soak in ATF for a few hours and then apply a LIGHT coat of grease to the splines and give it a shot.

If that doesn't help, you have either a - a leak in the vacuum lines to the hubs, or b - the vacuum solenoid isn't working.
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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I had the very same problem. It was the vacum seal. Even manualy locking the hubs didn't work. Problem fixed by deal, not cheap ($800)
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rbi
I had the very same problem. It was the vacum seal. Even manualy locking the hubs didn't work. Problem fixed by deal, not cheap ($800)
First, WELCOME to FTE!

To the OP: Manually lock the hubs and see what happens next time.

The fact that they work, and then don't work, and then work again means one thing. It's not a big honkin' vacuum leak like a seal is completely shot, or a hose is broken. You'd have all or nothing.

Either the vacuum solenoid is going bad, or the hubs are sticking. Betting dollars to donuts, the hubs are probably just sticking.

On edit: there is a relay that controls the vacuum solenoid, and this can become intermittent also... but try cleaning the hubs first.

Do the procedure that BFR250SD posted. If you're still having problems, come back here, and we'll work on this with you all the way
 

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Old May 30, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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I have also seen the shift linkage on the transfer case fail at the solenoid. This is only the case if you have the ****-on-the-fly option. If it is manual 4X4 this would not apply.
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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thanks for all the help but it will take me a few days to get to work on it but i will let everyone know how it turns out, hopefully not much money involved!
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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BEFORE you spend gobs of money, come back and let us know what's going on!
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dagren99
ESOF Hub Vacuum leak would be my bet. If you get stuck in the same situation again lock the hubs manually.

DG
Sounds good to me....had same difficulty here.
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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I had the very same problem. It was the vacum seal. Even manualy locking the hubs didn't work. Problem fixed by deal, not cheap ($800)
$800? Yikes. I switched out the auto hubs for Warn manuals for about $175. Very easy to swap. if you want ESOF after that, just turn the hubs in and use the dash switch whenever you need 4wd. As my driveway is 3000 ft long and gains 400 ft elev, is snow covered all winter and is the truck is the wifes primary vehicle, I just left the hubs turned in from Nov to April.

Funny story -wife decided to take a "short cut" over the mountain a couple weeks ago - still snow at the top. Ihad already turned the hubs out and she knew that. She gets to the top, spins in the snow a little, turns the dash switch and said the truck was fine after that. I asked her if she had got out and turned the hubs - she says "oops". At least she *thought* she was in fwd and felt better <g>

mike in montana
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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I asked her if she had got out and turned the hubs - she says "oops". At least she *thought* she was in fwd and felt better <G>

mike in montana
Bwahahaha!

I better shut up! Not like any of us would EVER do that!

I did the same not too long ago while I was out playing around. Thought I broke something up front, as the front wheels weren't turning. After leaving two big dug out trenches (ARB's rock, by the way) up this trail, I realize I forgot to lock the front hubs.
 

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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Mine did the same thing. I bought a 2001 used in 2003. First time in the mud, the ESOF did not work. Got it home & asked the same question here that you did. Mine was nothing more than a dry-rotted vacuum hose at the back of the hub. Just had to cut off the bad end and put it back in place. Hasn't failed since, & I drive in mud about once a month. Using it often helps keep everything in working order.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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I still haven't got chance to look for vacum leak but i think that is my problem because i noticed yesterday when i tried it it made me defrost come on but it still wouldn't go in 4x4 so i got out and turn the hubs manually and the 4x4 worked and my ac finally came back on by itself! However when i got out of the field i turned the hubs back to auto and it went into 4x4 by itself one time but it made my defrost come on again but when i took it out of 4x4 that time it hasn't went back in by itself i had to do it manually so i am betting it being a slow vacume leak somewhere!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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You have a vacuum leak after the solenoid, or possibly, the solenoid itself.

Let us know!
 
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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What about the hubs not coming OUT of 4 wheel drive? I get a clunking when I try to turn now, and I don't know what to do about the hubs staying locked in 4x4.
 
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