Vic_Ferrari,

Yep looking forward to seeing what happens!

mark @ DPPI

 

hey mark,
couple things, 1) ive noticed that on the mbrp website u guys have 4,5,and6 inch stacks. and they come in strait, angle, and turn out. my problem is im looking at the turnouts, but in 5 inch. it looks like u guys only offer them in 4 inch? is it possible to get them in 5 inch? 2)dont hold out man, whats the price??? thanks again

 

Mark, I see what you are saying but really your cutting excess pipe and not into the part that matters. I see what you are saying but you made it seem like you were cutting into the core which you do not.

 

jasfaa,

If you modify (in any way) an emmissions device you will likely have more trouble with Ford than if you leave it totally stock! Plus how would you ever remove the cat for racing or off road use since it is cut and no longer have the two bolt flnage. Banks does it this way as it's much cheaper to expand a pipe and supply a clamp and have the consumer cut their cat than to weld in a flange and provide bolts, nuts, washers and gaskets like MBRP and AFE do.

Mark @ DPPI

 

gopedoligist,

MBRP doesn't offer them in 5 inch sorry!!

Mark @ DPPI

 

Mark, I am not disagreeing with you. I would go with an MBRP exhaust if I did it all over again but I don't agree with you on the CAT and cutting the functional part in half. As far as FMC is concerned, I will probably never buy a Ford again. The best thing to do with a Ford product is leave it stock. Don't put a camper on it, pull a trailer, use a GPS in it or modify it in any way or they will deny your warranty in some way if you have an issue. In other words, don't use it for why you bought it.

 

That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. I still wonder why people expect ford to pick up the tab for their own mistakes installing aftermarket equipment. Ford releases the product they intend to release for a reason, mainly to run reliably and work hard. If the 500 hp motor would last as long (for the same price and get decent economy) as the 325 motor they would probably release it. You have to pay to play!

My SCT arrives in 3 days!

 

Customz, the failure was not caused due to the aftermarket part and I agree with you that if it did Ford should not pay for the damage. Ford won't give me the parameter I exceeded that caused anything. My motor is torn down with no signs of overfueling or overheating which would be a great reason to deny warranty but it does not have those signs. The 2nd part of your ignorance in not knowing all of the facts is that I ran my truck stock until 20,000 miles because of computer issues that caused it to idle up to 3700 RPM's on its own. Since they could not fix it I decided to put the chip in it. Guess what, idle up issue went away. The third ignorant thing is that Ford has had 3 re-designs of the head gasket that failed. HMMM I wonder why? And finally, the commonization of the heads between the 6.0 to a 6.4. Why would you change the design of the heads on the 6.0 in its last year and increase not only torque specifications but bolt size on a good design? Who is the ignorant one? I love Ford trucks but will not support FMC anymore. I have an 03 motor riddled with issues. I don't mean to disrespect you but get the facts before you call someone ignorant.

 

You put a chip in a problematic truck? One that had head gaket problems no less...

I guess the word is stupid not ignorant

 

Did not know that the head gaskets were an issue on this truck before I did the mods. I did know that the computer issues could be fixed with an aftermarket unit. Again, I show now disrespect to you but FMC needs to fix their issues. I'll fix the issues that were caused but this was not.

 

I can tell you only what the dealer i use told me. The 6.0 comes maxed out and should not be modified in any way. They are really hot on stock exhaust. I beleive cat back might be acceppted. They frown on 3.5 down pipe and 4 inch pipe even if cat left in. I have been told by ford bigger exhaust will create less back pressure and cause turbo to run away and spin bearing out as well as make engine run hot. It also has been blamed for sticking vanes it the turbo and blown head gaskets. In short it makes the 6.0 run better than it was designed to. If you run a programmer you better back out the flash, disconnect batteries, and make sure you have a cat in the ehaust before going in for service. I do believe they have issues with head gaskets and turbos. A 4 inch pipe with a magnaflow muffler and a 5 inch polished tip does look and sound cool.

 

just to add my two cents, ive been working on diesels for years now and ive found that no matter which engine u have (7.3, 6.0, duracrap, or cummins) if u want power or for it just to sound good, install an intake and exhaust. its trouble free, sounds good and makes good power. if u need more power, change gears or buy a bigger truck. i know alot of guys hear like chips but after years of working with cat and international i just dont see it. makes good power but overall shortens engine life and screws with warrenty. and then turns people like jasfaa into crybabys when ford wont fix his problems. all in all keep it simple.
keep it ford

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but is there really any reason to attack another user when you don't even know what the situation is?

 

Thank you Navy. Comments are correct except that I am not a crybaby. I agreed to let Ford tear down my motor. The verbal agreement was that if there was no visible damage of over fueling or over heating they would fix it. Don't ever do a verbal agreement ever...... There is only signs of headgasket failure which the dealer said they would cover if there was no overheating or signs of overfueling. No overheating or over fueling including the stock star pattern on the pistons but they say it was chipped so deny warranty. I have the pictures. This is where my issue with FMC begins. If they would provide me with an actual reason other than "the presence of aftermarket parts", then I would probably go away and stop making these comments. I still love Ford trucks and their designs in regards to what I need in a truck. I just wish they would step up and fix a known issue on the 2003 6.0. Again, for those new to the issue, I have an 03 motor which was not thoroughly tested before it was put into production. This is well known. Later models of the motor are much better. In addition, if someone wants to hide a chip, then you are as immoral as Ford is in my opinion. I was honest about what I did and I am getting the shaft. Apparently though, this is what you have to do to get a warrantable item fixed from FMC unfortunately.

 

Well, how 'bout we follow NavyPowerstroker's advice and keep the name calling out of this discussion. No reason to get personal.

Thanks.