2001 7.3L Excursion 85K miles

Had an intermittant starting problem. Would turn over but not start sometimes. Sometimes it would turn over then eventually start after trying to run (sounded like fuel starving).

It starting happeniong more and more.

Took it to the dealer. Injector Control Pressure Sensor (ICP). It failed and started leaking oil. This oil runs up the wiring harness and ruins it too.

$618 and change.

Man, I love Ford, especially all I have heard about the 7.3L. I'm the second owner first was a soccer mom. In 35K miles I have had 2 injector sleeves crack, HPOP replaced, turbo boot leaks, and now this.

I'm going to unload this thing ASAP. Convince me I should get another PSD.

 

Hang around this forum awhile and see how many PSD owners have their rigs running well with 200k,300k and 400k miles with no major issues.
Replacing the ICP sensor is an easy job and can cost a lot less than $600.
Unfortunately there's the occaisional problematic engine. All makes have that
situation. A friend has a Toyota pickup SR5 V6 that was classified as a lemon.
My .02 worth.

 

Do you have a documented maintenance history? Did the soccer mom actually run it more than 10 minutes before shutting it down? How many times did she CHANGE the oil??? How about cooling off the turbo after a freeway run?? Did she even KNOW about the coolant additive?

Lotsa reasons yours is having a hissy fit, I think kinda like automotive child abuse by the old owner. These things are NOT toys, they almost prefer being run really long and hard.

If there was a better one out there, I would have to buy it, but until then.........I LOVE MY TRUCK

 

Very good point!

 

Try not to take this the wrong way, but I think the dealer saw you coming. It's difficult for me to fathom a HPOP failing at only 85K miles...and a $600 bill for $90 in parts seems excessive as well. Was there actually fuel in the coolant, or did the dealer convince you the sleeves were bad?

My instincts are screaming that your dealer is soaking you for parts you don't need. Are you paying more than the $100 deductible for any of this? Everything you mentioned should be covered under the 100K engine warranty.

 

Oil Leak - Turbo Boot ($75 Diagnosis Fee) (Dealer A)
Fuel Smell In Cab - Water Fuel Separator Valve Repalced ($298-Dealer A- Dealer A would not refund any money for fixing the wrong problem, Dammit)
Fuel In Coolant (Culprit of previous problem)- 2 Injector Sleeves ($100 Deductible - On Vacation - Dealer B)
HPOP - Oil leaking a lot - ($100 Deduct Dealer A)
Oil Leak - $65 Diagnostic Fee, ran on freeway/dye test no leak - Dealer C
Intermittant Hard Start - ($618 - for ICP and 12" of wire with connector.)

It is in the shop right now and waiting til tomarrow for 2nd Part???? Let me know how many hours and I will argue with them. My 100K/5 YR just ran out last month. If this should be covered can I gem then to cover it even if I am 1 month over the 5yr?

Thoughts?

 

With that much work being done so close to warranty they should be willing to at least offset some of the cost....but they don't have to. You'll have to talk them into it.

There are brand new ICP sensors on ebay for $50...and a foot of wire and one plug!!! You are definitely getting rolled on that deal, probably because you are out of warranty. Dealer B did right by you, dealer A is only after your money in my opinion.

 

I'm having the same problem with my ICP sensor leaking through the top of itself. How serious of a problem is that?

I had my HPOP fail at 113K... $600+ bill for that one.

 

The sensor control does not sense properly, si it doesn' fire right. The oil up the wire changes the resistence or something.

I will be talking with them for sure.

 

Could I do this fix myself?

 

the sensor takes 5 minutes to change. where at in norcal?



1 thing to remember:

you have found this site. with some hand tools and the internet you can do anything on your psd. all you gotta do is ask. stop paying the dealer. icp sensor on ebay 50 bucks and 5 minutes of your time. before you even think about going to the dealer next time come here first.


$550.00 at sears will buy you a lot of tools.

 

That's why some people on here are calling it the stealer.

 

I talked with the dealer. he talked to the service manager. He said he was sympathetic to my situation, but it is "out of warranty". He did get the parts guys to cvome down $40. You think I care about $40 out of $618.

Damn Stealers.

Today I have had some of the same symptoms as before. Turns over and takes a bit to fire, Dammit.

 

B I N G O

$60 CPS sensor purchased from eBay, and twenty minutes TOPS to change it out, and you would have saved over $550. Just cause the stearlership says it, don't mean its true. They make their living off peoples misery and ignorance. Come here first next time and get help.

How about this for convincing. My 99 Dodge at 180K cracked its block. Thats nearly a $10K fix at the local Cummins shop. Not that it cant happen to a Ford just as easy, but it happened to MY Dodge.

 

I just found out today that I have the same problem.

Before I went to a local shop that uses the EXACT same tools the dealership uses, I talked to 3 Ford dealerships.

Dealer A (the one I always go to instead of my normal dealer): $99 to diagnose drivability plus I had to leave it there overnight because they were backed up for about a day and a half.

Dealer B: I went here because a friend of mine told me they were a no BS dealership. $85 to diagnose a drivability problem plus they'd have to keep the truck for 2 days before they got to it.

Dealer C: (the one bought my truck from, but hate with a passion) $225 to diagnose a drivability problem. I didn't have to leave it there, but it was too much to diagnose what would probably be a simple problem.

After 3 dealers, I was pissed and wanted to know what was causing this, so I tried a local shop I never knew existed and came out great. The diagnosis fee was a fair $75 and he even took the time to explain everything. After about 10 minues of testing, he figured out that it was the IPC sensor that had oil coming up out of it. He said that the oil was throwing off the sensor and that's why my truck could barely maintain idle or even drive. All I have to do is change the sensor and the wires going to it and all would be well. He also suggested that I don't buy the wires from Ford because they'll clean me out for them. Instead he recommended that I go to a chevy dealership and get the same plug used on the 3.1 throttle body and I'd save a good amount of money. If you're looking for a good diesel mech in the Houston area, I'd recommend this guy over any Ford dealership. He uses the same tools, probably costs alot less, and from what I've seen in his shop, he's more of a Ford Powerstroke guy than anything else. If you want need any info regarding the shop, please PM me.