92 bronco wanting 351w
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92 bronco wanting 351w
Can anyone point me in the right direction if this info is already on the site some where. Can I swap out my 92/95 (SWaped orignal already for a 95) 302 fuel injected for a 351w fuel injected? mainly Computer,plugins,radiator size.
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Kemicalburns is your go-to man on this one. He's done the swap. Its a fairly straight-forward operation as I recall. I can tell you that you WILL need the computer (ECM) for a 351. If you have an E4OD automatic transmission, it will need to be an ECM for that combination (351/E4OD) since the E4OD is controlled by the ECM as well.
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hey thanks man, thats a good first tip. I will check out kemicalburns swap info. I also am in the process of building a 26 ford model t coupe. I have a 460 out of a 1987 E350 ambulance and the c6 trani that came with it. I am wondering if this is a electronic loc out converter. how can i tell for sure? and if it is (cause there is some wires running to the trans) can I run it with out the wires and are there high stall converters or do I have to find another trani.
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Not sure but I don't know that the C6 had that capacity especially as far back as 87. The only electronic device on/in the C6 that I am aware of is the neutral safety switch. Don't take that as gospell though.
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I was at the local shop (nova automotive) they build motors and subout trani jobs. Buddy there told me the same as you its only a neutral switch. Stoked, I did not want to have to look for another trani. I will try to get my girlfriend to put some pics of my rides (choppers, lower rider s10 with 350/350 combo, 26 model Tgettin chopped and a 521ci bbf and broncitus) so you know I'm not wasteing your time GReystreak92, I do everything I can my self including building my own motor bike frames, I am constantly on the quest for answers about mechanical compatibality. I work as a selfemployed fabricator (wood,metal,composite) so I usually build what ever I can not afford, so those who help (like you and others) are always greatly apreciated. thanks again.
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hey hey, swapping to a 5.8 is easy as dropping in another 5.0. You will need a 5.8/e4od ecu. you can reuse your 302 wiring harness, motor mounts, accessory brackets and throttlebody. if you can find a complete 5.8 from intake to oil pan that would make the swap way easier. there are a few plugs on the 302 harness that you wont use on the 5.8 like knock sensor and i forget the other one but those can be tied up. your 302 radiator should work fine but if its small nows the time to upgrade to a 4 core. also the flexplate on your 302 will not work on the 5.8 wrong imbalance. let me know if you have more questions
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by throttlebody do you mean the MAF (mass air flow)my bronco is a 92 but in canada they had the MAF by then (cali got maf in 95 I think) and as far as the e4od is that what the C4 trani became. My trani does have push button over drive. and already an aluminium 2 core rad. and last question about this, can I run carbouratored 351 with that trani? ( i know EFI is more consistant on uneven terrain but I'm addictied to weed/I mean speed and the sound of cracking the 4bb is music to my ears.)
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the c4 and e4od have no relation what so ever. you can go carb but why, the efi is so much better especially were you live in the colder climate. plus you would need a stand alone computer for the tranny to work right. the 2 core rad is to small for your 302 already so going to a 3 or 4 core would be best.
throttlebody is like the carb but for efi application. Get a haynes manual it will help
throttlebody is like the carb but for efi application. Get a haynes manual it will help
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good info, (sorry about the weed joke, but it best explains some of my wacked ideas) My bronco is MAF not EFI as far as stand alone computers for my trani, not me. I will have to keep the trani I have and stick to fuel injection. thanks again.
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I under stand that but my bronco is more like multi port injection, not like throttlebody. So my orignal question was, Can I swap a MAF style fuel injection 351W if there is such a beast in to my MAF (not throttlebody) style injection 302. The reason I like carbs is I understand them. If you've got gas and you've got spart you should have go. With computer stuff I don't know how to field fix a fu map sensor. Or up your what, but I must do what I must do. And work with what I got cuz I already got it six up, blacked out and beat to death. thanx
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so you converted your 92 from speed density to Mass Air? 92 did not come from the factory running Mass Air or (MAF). Throttlebody injection never came on these rigs, but you still have one. thats what is bolted to the upper intake right were the intake tubes attach. go to www.fordfuelinjection.com and read up, good info there regarding everything efi